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Nereus wrote:
PET wrote:As usual, very many thanks ' lomuamart'.

I obtained the embassy letter 6 weeks ago, so that should be ok.

Yes, I do have a Non Imm OA visa and this is my first extension.
Along with that which Lomu has written, have a copy of the OA visa and the entry stamp that goes with it. Each year they ask for a copy of the ORIGINAL entry stamp. You can get photo copies done at the small place that is part of the Immigartion building, (unless this has changed recently), but it is better to have the correct copies to start with.
Thanks Nereus. I didn't mention those specifically, but should have. Lumped them under passport. They are necessary as is a copy of your departure card.
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I have just got my 3rd renewal. Its dead easy. I take my pension letters (which are sent to my address in Thailand) to the British embassy. The embassy letter which is available in 24hrs show income, address and politely asks Thai immigration to assist in obtaining the visa (cost is around 2000baht) Your passport must be valid for at least 12 months and the pension letter no older than 3 months. A new requirement is that you must apply at the immigration office in the district where you live. My office in Samut Prakan ask for copies of all pages of the passport but that appears to vary. The cost was 1900 baht.
I still have to report in every 90 days at any immigration office(usually Hua Hin) within Thailand. I have heard that might change in the future to your district office. I show on the front of the form my registered home in Samut Prakan and my holiday home in Bang Saphan on the back. .
With this visa you must get a re-entry visa if you leave the country intending to return otherwise the whole process will begin again. The re-entry visa cost was 1000baht for a single re-entry and around 4000baht for a multiple.
As stated on the forum this government are changing cetain aspects for stopping in Thailand. The Thai immigration website is updated regularly.
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Did you not require:-

Photo copies of your original entry and non-im visa and departure card?
A passport photo?
A copy of the front page of your passport
Photocopies of your house book or the rental contract where you live?
A map of where you live?
Yes it is easy but you must give all the requirements on this thread because any lapse will mean a refusal.
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PET wrote:Did you not require:-

Photo copies of your original entry and non-im visa and departure card?
A passport photo?
A copy of the front page of your passport
Photocopies of your house book or the rental contract where you live?
A map of where you live?
Yes it is easy but you must give all the requirements on this thread because any lapse will mean a refusal.
Well said.
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In answer to Pet. As I said photocopies of all pages in my passport were required. I did forget to mention about the photos. The letter from the British embassy shows my address and income so house book, rental contract or my was not needed. I do not have a non immigrant visa as the Thai immigration changed it to state my visa is a retirement visa in December 2006. I always used to go to the main office in Bangkok but last year I had to go to Samut Prakun instead. I was in and out within 10 minutes.
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Colinbs wrote:In answer to Pet. As I said photocopies of all pages in my passport were required. I did forget to mention about the photos. The letter from the British embassy shows my address and income so house book, rental contract or my was not needed. I do not have a non immigrant visa as the Thai immigration changed it to state my visa is a retirement visa in December 2006. I always used to go to the main office in Bangkok but last year I had to go to Samut Prakun instead. I was in and out within 10 minutes.
Have they changed the rules again, Lomu??? :shock: :wink:
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I'm not aware of any more changes.
Perhaps colinbs could clarify? I would imagine that he had a Non Imm O visa because it's the only one(other than Non B for working) that can be extended for a year. 30 day visa exempt stamps and Tourist visas can be upgraded to a Non O within Thailand as long as you meet the requirements for the marriage or retirement extension, but it's that upgraded Non O that you extend.
Again I assume that what colinbs means when he says a retirement visa is actually an annual retirement extension that he's kept going since 2006. The Non O has expired but that dosn't matter as long as extensions are made in time. The old Non O still remains in the passport though.
Have I got that right, colinbs?
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As my passport was due to expire in May of this year (2009) I was told by the immigration department that I had to get a new one before I could get my new retirement visa. This I did in September last year.
I then went to the immigration office at Hua Hin and all details of my entry and previous visas were transferred to my new passport. The original non immigant visa was not transferred to my new passport as I was told it was not necessary. I asked if I should keep my old passport to show the original non immigrant visa. I was told this was not necessary as all relevant information is within my new passport.
I am over 60 and have been married to a Thai lady for over 18 years and having been coming to the country for over 25 years. When I first enquired about the visa I should get when I came here I was told the retirement one was the best even though I could have a marriage visa as I am married to a Thai.
I was also told that the first visa had to by obtained in my own country but all subsequent ones would be issued in Thailand without a need to leave the country. As I said before I have never had any trouble as yet with visas within the country. The only difference was last time whereas I used to go to Suan Phu in Bangkok I now have to go to Samut Prakun. As it was a small office no-one spoke English I just gave the completed form 1900 baht and other necessary documents and as I said before was out within 10/15 minutes.
The information supplied by both the British Embassy and Thai Immigration I have always found to be accurate but needs to be checked regularly as changes are made to requirements.
I will be in Hua Hin shortly and would be pleased to show the pages of my passport to show what was transferred from my old passport.
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Thanks for the clarification. As suspected you've been staying here on annual retirement extensions that originate from a Non O visa.
It's just terminology really. Visas are issued by Thai Embassies and consulates outside of the country (except when you can upgrade as explained before). Extensions are granted within Thailand.
Interesting that you didn't have to transfer the Non O to your new passport. I've never been sure what happened in that situation.
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I must admit that I will keep my old passport safely and take it with me whenever I visit an immigration office for any reason.
I know that the immigration system was being upgraded last year and applications can be made on line but I'm not sure if that applies to visas or just the 90 day address requirmement.
Is it possible that individuals records are now computerised and just checked against details on file when applying for visa's etc.
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Interesting that you didn't have to transfer the Non O to your new passport. I've never been sure what happened in that situation.
I had to change passports just before my 2nd or 3rd "retirement" renewal and the officer at Hua Hin immigration actually put a long hand written entry into my new passport before the renewal stamp page. It is written in very neat, very small Thai and covers nearly the entire page.

I never really checked with anyone to see what it says. I guess it would be a good joke if it said something like "If you read this, kick this foreigner's arse!" :D
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Colinbs wrote:I must admit that I will keep my old passport safely and take it with me whenever I visit an immigration office for any reason.
I know that the immigration system was being upgraded last year and applications can be made on line but I'm not sure if that applies to visas or just the 90 day address requirmement.
Is it possible that individuals records are now computerised and just checked against details on file when applying for visa's etc.
I'm pretty sure it's only the 90 day reporting that can be done online - BUT I've never come across a person who's done that successfully. See below:
http://www.immigration.go.th/nov2004/en ... age=90days

The bl--dy site has changed again. However, it seems fairly easy in the English language. There's no note of online services. (That was definitely there a little while ago). :guns: :guns:
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