You would have to buy a firearm through your spouse. The gun would be registered in his/her name.
There is a road in Bangkok near to Sao Ching Cha (เศวตชิงช้า) which has many gunshops. Prices have gone up a lot recently and there is a long waiting list. You will probably have to wait at least a month before taking possession of the gun.
No Thai court will rule against you for shooting an armed intruder. If you have a family it is your duty to do whatever it takes to protect them.
“The superior man, when resting in safety, does not forget that danger may come. When in a state of security he does not forget the possibility of ruin. When all is orderly, he does not forget that disorder may come. Thus his person is not endangered, and his States and all their clans are preserved.” - Confucius
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Guns are too much of a liability and most people don't know how to handle/use them properly.
There are plenty of non-lethal alternatives that are just as effective.
If you hesitate with a gun then it'll probably end up with you being the one that gets a "cap in the ass".
Also, it's worth mentioning that if you "plug" a Thai then it's not just the officialdom that you will have to navigate but also you would probably have to quickly move house and "disappear" a VERY, VERY long way away as there would all manner of friends and relatives that would be plotting revenge upon you and your family because of the need to restore face etc. This usually takes the form of young men firing weapons from the back of a motorbike or something similar.
It is not just the action of using the weapon but the "blow back" from doing so and, as said, doing a Houdini sharpish is order of the day. Pull that trigger and that's your present life done and changed as you will not be able to casually carry on with things the next day.
I read a story about a farange in Khon Kaen that chased a Thai that had snatched his Mr's gold chains and tackled him/subdued him till the cops arrived, who took the villian away and sent him to jail. Two weeks later the farang was shot dead by the thief's uncle at an ATM. Another one I can mention that shows how "hair-trigger" these lot are is a few years ago when I lived at an apartment block in Korat there was a hair dresser that got involved with a farang and one night he shook his fist at and got pissed off with some scooter boys that were making a lot of noise late at night and the next day they came past the shop he and his Mrs were living at and popped a few rounds in there for revenge. Nobody hurt but they moved away in the next day or two.
Do anything along these lines and it's "Watch your back Jack!"
Better just to do all you can and prevent them from even getting in in the first place or making it appear so hard that they think there is going to be an easier target someplace else.
There are plenty of non-lethal alternatives that are just as effective.
If you hesitate with a gun then it'll probably end up with you being the one that gets a "cap in the ass".
Also, it's worth mentioning that if you "plug" a Thai then it's not just the officialdom that you will have to navigate but also you would probably have to quickly move house and "disappear" a VERY, VERY long way away as there would all manner of friends and relatives that would be plotting revenge upon you and your family because of the need to restore face etc. This usually takes the form of young men firing weapons from the back of a motorbike or something similar.
It is not just the action of using the weapon but the "blow back" from doing so and, as said, doing a Houdini sharpish is order of the day. Pull that trigger and that's your present life done and changed as you will not be able to casually carry on with things the next day.
I read a story about a farange in Khon Kaen that chased a Thai that had snatched his Mr's gold chains and tackled him/subdued him till the cops arrived, who took the villian away and sent him to jail. Two weeks later the farang was shot dead by the thief's uncle at an ATM. Another one I can mention that shows how "hair-trigger" these lot are is a few years ago when I lived at an apartment block in Korat there was a hair dresser that got involved with a farang and one night he shook his fist at and got pissed off with some scooter boys that were making a lot of noise late at night and the next day they came past the shop he and his Mrs were living at and popped a few rounds in there for revenge. Nobody hurt but they moved away in the next day or two.
Do anything along these lines and it's "Watch your back Jack!"
Better just to do all you can and prevent them from even getting in in the first place or making it appear so hard that they think there is going to be an easier target someplace else.
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I am now fully aware of the consequences, should I be brought in the unfortunate situation of shooting somebody in self defense here in Thailand. You may all rest assured that if it comes to the question of being me or the criminal ending up dead, it is not going to be me. Needless to say, I shall take all possible precautions to prevent an armed confrontation -which may very well include procuring an electronic alarm system from one of the distinguished members of this group.
This concludes my part of the discussion of the subject. Thanks to all who participated; some of you have rendered quite valuable advice.
This concludes my part of the discussion of the subject. Thanks to all who participated; some of you have rendered quite valuable advice.
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I come to this topic a little late . However i have been offered a pistol on two occasions since arriving in Hau Hin in 2002. When i came to Hua Hin in2002 we hired a maid,totally necessary but that's an other story, her husband was a policeman. I asked her about the shooting range at Bo Fai and she organised our first visit in the company of her husbnd who turned out to be a Senior Sargent Major. We , my wife and i had a great time firing different pistols.
We went back a few times and then i was asked if i wanted to buy my own pistol. I replied that i thought this was not possible but was assured it was not a problem. I declined as i feared if it was used to the detriment of a Thai i would go to jail or have to pay huge amounts of money to the relatives of the deceased.
I had the same offer of gun ownership at the army range opposite the palace . I declined this also.
I should add that i have handle guns since i was ten years old, and have no doubt i would shoot and intruder.
We went back a few times and then i was asked if i wanted to buy my own pistol. I replied that i thought this was not possible but was assured it was not a problem. I declined as i feared if it was used to the detriment of a Thai i would go to jail or have to pay huge amounts of money to the relatives of the deceased.
I had the same offer of gun ownership at the army range opposite the palace . I declined this also.
I should add that i have handle guns since i was ten years old, and have no doubt i would shoot and intruder.
Here you go http://huahinmedia.com/huahin-security.phpMarie Chinn wrote:Hi everyone,
We have a house in Hua Hin and feel we should install an alarm system for added security. Can anyone out there recommend any good companies providing alarms ? We have seen the advert on here for one company but would like to look around before deciding.
Many thanks Marie
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Hi Marie chinn, we had HH Alarme install their system in our house, I would recommend them. You could pm Superjoe who will give you a quot.
Where do you live? Sounds nice, I think I will break in!Last time someone broke into my home, i gave him warm choklad and a sandwich. Listen to his story and then gave him a hug.
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Whatever the law says in Thailand, I am sure it is easy enough to secure a gun, if you make some discreet enquiries.
But is it sensible? No.
- If you shoot a Thai for whatever reason, lawful or not; you are going to have all his friends and relatives after your blood, and we're not talking about a few fists flying - it'll be end game.
- If you threaten a burglar with a gun, he will probably run away; but he will also know that:
a) You have a gun, which he would probably quite like to steal.
b) You probably had a reason for having a gun, like a lot of cash and valuables in the house.
So he will use the bamboo telegraph to find out when you have gone away for a few days, and do your house over, well and truly.
Burglars the world over always go for the soft option - why target a house with an alarm, when there's plenty without; why break into a house that's got good locks and gates, when there's plenty that are easy to enter.
Putting your faith in a firearm is a recipe for trouble..
Tom
But is it sensible? No.
- If you shoot a Thai for whatever reason, lawful or not; you are going to have all his friends and relatives after your blood, and we're not talking about a few fists flying - it'll be end game.
- If you threaten a burglar with a gun, he will probably run away; but he will also know that:
a) You have a gun, which he would probably quite like to steal.
b) You probably had a reason for having a gun, like a lot of cash and valuables in the house.
So he will use the bamboo telegraph to find out when you have gone away for a few days, and do your house over, well and truly.
Burglars the world over always go for the soft option - why target a house with an alarm, when there's plenty without; why break into a house that's got good locks and gates, when there's plenty that are easy to enter.
Putting your faith in a firearm is a recipe for trouble..
Tom
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Thank you ALL for these discussions on firearms! As an American we have been accused of an OBSESSION with firearms (Johnny K) and am pleased to know he was wrong. This appears to be a worldwide discussion and problem. You are just like US!!
The National Rifle Association in the US defends the RIGHT to own a gun as Constitutionally protected by the 2nd Ammendment forgetting the clause ... "for the purpose of defending against tyranny in a militia" (or something close to that.)
My interest in this subject was to gauge the possibility of being shot during a mugging in T-land. I wanted to know if HH locals actually had weapons like handguns and if, like in the US, it was LEGAL to own one.
I agree that using one for self protection is actually shown to more likely get you shot, still in the US many own SEVERAL weapons (my brother included). After all, who else can help out criminals more than guns stolen from homeowners? ( Know several that it happened to.) And they always come in handy for blowing apart a treed- by- dogs defenseless fox in Britain!
Cheers
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The National Rifle Association in the US defends the RIGHT to own a gun as Constitutionally protected by the 2nd Ammendment forgetting the clause ... "for the purpose of defending against tyranny in a militia" (or something close to that.)
My interest in this subject was to gauge the possibility of being shot during a mugging in T-land. I wanted to know if HH locals actually had weapons like handguns and if, like in the US, it was LEGAL to own one.
I agree that using one for self protection is actually shown to more likely get you shot, still in the US many own SEVERAL weapons (my brother included). After all, who else can help out criminals more than guns stolen from homeowners? ( Know several that it happened to.) And they always come in handy for blowing apart a treed- by- dogs defenseless fox in Britain!
Cheers
DQ BGB
I think you do REALLY need to actually visit Thailand for a period of time LA and you will find that you are overly worried about many things/issues/situations etc. It's much safer here than were you are.
BTW, the National Rifle Association in the USA are a bunch of outdated 'Hill Billy Boys' named Jethro, Cooter or Rosco that need an education and a shave rather than just hog farming all the time and clinging to a document that was made for the wild west a couple of hundred years ago that has no revelance to a modern or progressive society. If ever there was an ammendment needed then it's regarding the silly bullshit about the right have arms.
How embarrassing to watch Charlton Heston (RIP) say "They can take this rifle from my cold, dead hands" at the annual NRA conference, it's pathetic.
BTW, it's not legal to have a a gun here as a farang. No, you don't need one, it's safer here than in any US city. Remember, Mexicans/Latinos etc are much more dangerous for you than Thais.
You really just need to visit and make your own mind up without being the paranoid question asker.
Enough about stating the obvious and doing charity work. You are older than me and should know better.
BTW, the National Rifle Association in the USA are a bunch of outdated 'Hill Billy Boys' named Jethro, Cooter or Rosco that need an education and a shave rather than just hog farming all the time and clinging to a document that was made for the wild west a couple of hundred years ago that has no revelance to a modern or progressive society. If ever there was an ammendment needed then it's regarding the silly bullshit about the right have arms.
How embarrassing to watch Charlton Heston (RIP) say "They can take this rifle from my cold, dead hands" at the annual NRA conference, it's pathetic.
BTW, it's not legal to have a a gun here as a farang. No, you don't need one, it's safer here than in any US city. Remember, Mexicans/Latinos etc are much more dangerous for you than Thais.
You really just need to visit and make your own mind up without being the paranoid question asker.
Enough about stating the obvious and doing charity work. You are older than me and should know better.
Resolve dissolves in alcohol
Don't forget hhfarang!BTW, the National Rifle Association in the USA are a bunch of outdated 'Hill Billy Boys' named Jethro, Cooter or Rosco
I am clean shaven and retired from 35 successful years (6 figure income in the last years) in the information technology business.that need an education and a shave rather than just hog farming all the time
That document made us the greatest country in modern times with the most freedoms of any country ever and we kicked your country's ass once and bailed you out a couple of other times with our arms.clinging to a document that was made for the wild west a couple of hundred years ago
I hate "progressives". It's just another name for bleeding heart liberals.that has no revelance to a modern or progressive society
If you ever need one you will think differently.If ever there was an ammendment needed then it's regarding the silly bullshit about the right have arms.
What's pathetic is any government that wants to take rights away from it's populace who are overwhelmingly in favor of that right.How embarrassing to watch Charlton Heston (RIP) say "They can take this rifle from my cold, dead hands" at the annual NRA conference, it's pathetic.
I grew up in the "hog farming" south, lived in California for 15 years and Florida for 4 years and I never knew anyone personally who was shot with a gun. I've lived in Thailand for 5 years and have known 3. Better rethink your opinion about which one is safer.BTW, it's not legal to have a a gun here as a farang. No, you don't need one, it's safer here than in any US city. Remember, Mexicans/Latinos etc are much more dangerous for you than Thais.
Sorry, no offense meant Spitfire but you, coming from a "progressive" country don't know what you are talking about when discussing America... it's a different culture.
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