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Thai farmers up in arms at herb listing

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This is a bizarre story from the BP today ...

Chilli, turmeric, ginger branded 'hazardous'

Farmers and traditional medicine experts have reacted angrily to the listing of 13 widely used herbal plants as hazardous substances, suggesting there is a hidden agenda that favours chemical companies.

The Industry Ministry listed the 13 plants as hazardous substances to control production and commercialisation.

The plants are widely used among farmers as alternatives for expensive and toxic farm chemicals, pesticides and herbicides.

The announcement on listing the plants as "hazardous substances type 1" under the 1992 Hazardous Substances Act was approved by Industry Minister Charnchai Chairungruang last month. It took effect on Feb 3.

Proposed by the Department of Agriculture, which is a member of the hazardous substances committee, the announcement requires growers, manufacturers, importers and exporters of pesticides, herbicides and plant disease control substances made from the 13 herbal plants to follow safety and quality control regulations issued by the committee. Otherwise they will face six months in jail and/or a fine of 50,000 baht.

Farmer advocates yesterday said putting the herbal plants on the controlled list would hurt growers as they could no longer produce, trade and use botanical pesticides and herbicides freely.

Farmers and producers of the organic substances might have to pay more for registration, packaging and testing as required by the law, said Witoon Lianchamroon, of Biothai, a non-government organisation working on organic farming.

He suspected the motive behind the listing.

Multinational chemical companies are expected to benefit once production and commercialisation of the alternative substances is curbed, he said.

Large numbers of farmers have switched recently from imported chemicals to botanical substances as they are much cheaper and safer, he said.

"Instead of tightening controls on these farmer-friendly herbal plants, the committee should crack down on multinational companies who exploit Thai farmers by luring them into buying their highly toxic and costly products," Mr Witoon said.

Tussanee Verakan, coordinator of the Alternative Agriculture Network, said the committee produced the list in secret without consulting farmers who would be the hardest-hit.

"The government keeps promoting organic farming and reduction of chemical use," she said.

"Why did they put such heavy restrictions on organic substances which are the heart of organic farming?"

Department deputy chief Jirakorn Kosaisevi insisted the listing was aimed at protecting benefits for farmers.

"The announcement is not intended to protect chemical producers," Mr Jirakorn said.

"These botanical pesticides are widely used and traded. They should be controlled to ensure they are up to standard."

The new regulation would help promote herbal products, he said.

Department for Development of Thai Traditional and Alternative Medicine deputy director-general Prapot Paetrakas said the 13 plants were core materials in herbal medicines. Controlling their manufacture and trade could affect the herbal medicine industry, he said.

The department will discuss the issue with legal experts and others on Friday.

Source: Bangkok Post

Thought: So am I going to get busted for making a vindaloo now? :mrgreen:
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I saw that this morning and was wondering what Mr Plum might think about matters until I realised it was more about agriculture than herbalists.
Crazy.
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Couldn't have anything to do with CP Group being the biggest supplier of Agricultural pesticides in Thailand and the PAD's biggest benefactor or that Mark's father is on the board of directors?
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Good-luck to the man from the ministry if he thinks he can stop my partners mother from growing chilli; she plants the stuff on every square inch of spare land owned by the family that she can find and there must be several hundred producing plants by now.
I couldn’t even stop her from planting the bloody things in our front garden
and if they were in anyway ‘hazardous’ the old girl would have been stricken long ago!
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Glad to see the important issues getting priority again.

Silly. :roll:
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I would prefer to eat a handful of herbs rather than a pinch of pesticides!
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lomuamart wrote:I saw that this morning and was wondering what Mr Plum might think about matters until I realised it was more about agriculture than herbalists.
Crazy.
Put two forces together... 1. Corporate profits and 2. The Rockefeller (and their ilk) mantra... 'Competition is a sin' and nature becomes the enemy.

Garlic, Ginger and Cayenne are nature's great antibacterial, antiviral gifts to mankind. They obviously have to go! :cry:

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The tactics they are using to put non-GM farmers out of business in the U.S. are it seems now being implemented here... I'll bet the new regulations will be so onerous or expensive that farmers wont be able to implement them...

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Looks like they've done a swift 'about turn' and started the damage limitation exercise of 'we didn't really mean it like that, honestly'.

The Ministry of Grand Plans at it again! :roll:

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Update......

Ministry removes 13 herbs from hazardous list
By: BangkokPost.com
Published: 3/06/2009 at 05:10 PM

The Industry Ministry removed 13 widely used herbs from its hazardous list on Wednesday.

However, the production and commercialisation of the substances would still need to be registered and tested before usage, Anusorn Nuangpholmak, deputy permanent secretary of the Industry Ministry, said.

In February, the ministry listed the plants as "hazardous substances type 1" under the 1992 Hazardous Substances Act.

Farmers and traditional medicine experts were incensed by the move as the plants are widely used as alternatives to expensive and toxic farm chemicals, pesticides and herbicides.

The 13 herbs and plants are: neem, lemongrass, turmeric, ginger, Chinese ginger, African marigold, Siam weed or bitter bush, tea seed cake, chilli, Chinese celery, ringworn bush, glory lily and stemona.

The ministry's hazardous substances committee decided not to removed sulphur from the list of hazardous substances yet. It is awaiting a decision from the Administrative Court on whether the decision to withdraw sulphur from the list was legal.

Critics have said that officials were looking to help sulphur importers by removing it from the hazardous list.

The court issued an injunction suspending the delisting of the mineral.
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prcscct wrote:...the production and commercialisation of the substances would still need to be registered and tested before usage,
Thanks for posting this. It will be interesting to see what it means in practice.

Good to hear they have back-peddled on what looked like an effort to shut down competition.
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MrPlum wrote:
prcscct wrote:...the production and commercialisation of the substances would still need to be registered and tested before usage,
Thanks for posting this. It will be interesting to see what it means in practice.

Good to hear they have back-peddled on what looked like an effort to shut down competition.
If it's the same as most everything else they back peddle on, it will all be forgotten. No enforcement, no testing. Business as usual, just as before it all started. :cheers:
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