Another pregnant drug runner

Post by **PeteC** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 4:53 pm

Let's see how this one turns out? Quite an elaborate route she took. Pete

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Pregnant Thai woman detained for smuggling cocaine

Kuala Lumpur - Malaysian police have detained a Thai woman for allegedly attempting to smuggle out more two kilogrammes of cocaine valued at 1.7 million ringgit (459,460 dollars), official news reports said Tuesday.

The 22-year-old suspect, who is two months pregnant, was detained Friday at a bus stop, after she had boarded a bus headed for the southern Thai city of Haatyai, Bernama news agency said.

Police discovered she had hidden the drugs in two photo frames, which were packed with her clothes, said Kuala Lumpur narcotics chief Kang Chez Chiang.

"We believe the woman flew from Bangkok to Johannesburg, South Africa, and then to Lima, Peru, to get the supply before flying into (Kuala Lumpur), and wanted to make her way to Thailand by land," Kang said.//DPA

Spitfire · Post by **Spitfire** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 7:40 pm

Yes, might even become a new trend as pregnant women don't get executed and it's a sensitive sort of inmate/criminal to hold. Again, silly tart, same as the Brit bird in Laos, but the Thai won't get off so easy.

The Thai government may well just let her fry and face the music. Getting caught in Malaysia is kind of final, same or worse than Laos maybe, the mullahs there are fairly unforgiving on this one and she'll get little help from the Thai authorities.

Always some numb nuts trying it on. Must have taken that route to get the purity of product. Again, catch the mule but the real perps escape to dupe some new silly fool.

Post by **PeteC** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 8:00 pm

spitfire wrote:.... Again, catch the mule but the real perps escape to dupe some new silly fool.

Yes, you've hit the nail on the head with a very big hammer SF.

Does anyone remember your mentality when you were 22? That was also in much more conservative times when values were different and influences were different, Regardless, most of us still had scrambled egg brains at that age.

This girl is probably worth saving with some counseling and boot camp to drill it into her physically and mentally.

However, Malaysia will probably hang her unless their law is similar to Lao law, while the suppliers carry on because even the DEA can't catch or stop most of them.

Perhaps has a purpose to convince others not to be so stupid. It's a waste of a life though that could be changed, as this girl cannot possibly be a hardened criminal. Pete

Spitfire · Post by **Spitfire** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:04 pm

You're probably right Pete, in that she's worth saving at 22, probably just a young air head with no concept or education etc etc that's been impressed by some cretin because they were the first person to pay any attention to her so she went along with it. How many times have I heard some girl say something ridiculuos along the lines of "Well, he shared his Pepsi with me, so I love him", OK, exaggeration, but you know what I mean.

Thing is that they is nothing as warm and woolly as a "prisoner exchange system" between Thailand and Malaysia, they pretty much hold the same views on this matter.

Not sure why they don't allow them to take the stuff to the real villain/s and then clear them all up, don't really hear of the local authorities doing that to much. What, vested interests? Too embarrassing etc? I wonder........hmmmm.

Post by **lomuamart** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:21 pm

I'm pretty sure that there were two Thai women executed in Malaysia recently for drug running.
I very much doubt that this particular Thai lady will get away with anything. A trapdoor and a drop.

Post by **caller** » Wed Sep 09, 2009 3:00 am

I think there is a big difference between someone from the comfort zone of the UK doing this - as proved by you know who, now safely back in the UK - and someone from a third world country doing the same.

I know where my sympathy lies.

Just bought and watched - 3 nights out of 4 - the film, `Maria, full of grace' which I found mesmerising, as you can see! Strongly recommended (about a young Colombian drug mule).

Post by **migrant** » Wed Sep 09, 2009 5:22 am

caller wrote:
Just bought and watched - 3 nights out of 4 - the film, `Maria, full of grace' which I found mesmerising, as you can see! Strongly recommended (about a young Colombian drug mule).

Great movie!!

Post by **Khundon1975** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:47 pm

Another one bites the dust. When will they learn that in many countries in Asia, drugs mean death.

$460,000 street value, she would only have got a few thousand $ for her troubles (if she was a mule for someone else) now she faces as lomuamart infers, the long drop.

I wonder just how many do get through (or are let through) customs, allowing these killer drugs onto the local markets to reek havoc?

Malaysia does execute women drug smugglers, so she will be very lucky to only get a life sentence, though I suspect she will get to have the baby, then face the executioners. They don't seem to have any qualms about it there and the Thais are unlikely to plead her case.

Maybe she is just young and gullible as spitfire says, I'm not sure.

We have to look at the pros and cons of smuggling from a Thai perspective, a few grand (a lot of money to a poor Thai girl) versus being caught. I will need more information on this case before I can make up my mind.
Which ever way it goes, life in jail, or the drop, she is in deep doodoo.

PET · Post by **PET** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:46 pm

I am impressed with the Malaysian police.

A young pregnant Thai goes from here to Joburg, Lima and KL and then gets through KL Customs, but is apprehended at the bus station.

If it was not so serious it would have been dam bad luck - so how she got through customs escapes me.

Yet again the instigators are free but of course she may well 'sing'.

Post by **caller** » Fri Sep 11, 2009 2:58 am

PET wrote: If it was not so serious it would have been dam bad luck - so how she got through customs escapes me.

It could be that they let her through, to see what else she led them to?

Post by **komfortablynumb** » Fri Sep 11, 2009 1:48 pm

Yet another life if not wasted then certainly a lot of time contemplating.
malaysia doesn't mess. I seem to remember 2 kiwis hung about 23 years ago for drug smuggling.
If her consignment had got through 2ks of coke would have anaesthatised
an awful ot of noses. A few people would have died. A lot of other crime apart from drugs would have been commited.
It is always sad when the mules in this very lucrative trade lose there lives.
I realy can't blame them especially the young and stupid girls/boys Who are at best stupid, and worse greedy.
I always think of them as the CAR driven by a drunk driver that kills someone. Don't blame the car. It is the brain sitting in the drivers seat that is responsible.
I often wonder how i would feel if that was my daughter.
Drugs have been around for a long time. Hallucogentics have been used in native rituals. The coco leaf has been consumed in it's raw state by south Americans forever. opium smoked. Indeed the British went to war with China over the supply of it. Also morphine is the greatest source of pain relief known to mankind.
It only seems to have become a problem when international gangs using the Tesco policy got involved that it became a problem.
My rant of the day.

If it hasnet been done to death may i reccomend to the forum.
Forget you had a daughter.
By Sandra lockwood.
Brought

to my eyes.

Post by **Takiap** » Fri Sep 11, 2009 3:24 pm

Yes it's shame, and even more so to think that she'll probably hang for it. I know what she did was wrong, but I don't think she should pay with her life for it. People do things much worse and get off lightly. You can butcher a person with a hammer, and providing you have a good lawyer who can convince the authorities you have diminished responsibility or some crap, you'll be out on the streets again after a few years.

A short while back two thai workers ambushed an old thai man just a few hundred meters from our place, put a belt around his throat and then beat him to death with a stick, all because of a stupid argument about the government. Being workers down from Isaan, they thought the sun shine out of Thaksin's arse, while the old man didn't agree. That disagreement cost him his life while the two workers will spend a few years behind bars before being release to consume more Lao Khow.

If you ask me....I'd rather share this planet with someone selling coke than share it with barbarians.

Sorry......rant over...

Post by **JoeDoc** » Fri Sep 11, 2009 4:03 pm

These problems could be solved across the board easily. Legalize all drugs making it not worth dealers time to smuggle them and junkies would no longer need to break in to peoples homes etc. to feed their habits. Think of all the money saved by countries no longer needing to lock people up in jail for possessing illegal drugs. The money saved could be used for education and youth recreation. Alas, I don't think the CIA would be too happy with that plan given they are the biggest drug dealers in the world by far.

Post by **BaaBaa.** » Fri Sep 11, 2009 4:43 pm

JoeDoc wrote:junkies would no longer need to break in to peoples homes etc. to feed their habits.

Why? Legalisation would increase the prices due to tax if anything.

Post by **JoeDoc** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 4:31 pm

BaaBaa. wrote:
JoeDoc wrote:junkies would no longer need to break in to peoples homes etc. to feed their habits.
Why? Legalisation would increase the prices due to tax if anything.

Portugal has already shown the way. They decriminalized all drugs 8 years ago. Despite concerns drug usage would increase, it actually decreased and many more drug users there are seeking help to come off the drugs. As a result, crime has gone down, there are no underground illegal drug dealers, and the tax payer doesn't have to pay for a drug user spending their time wasting away in prison. The police can also concentrate on real crime. A good plan all round and a successful experiment wouldn't you agree?