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Anyone seen one of these here? It's a tool used to pull wire or cable through an already existing (installed) pvc conduit. It is only 5mm wide and will go around corners.

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It looks like one of those gastric bands... :shock:
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I have one that you could borrow, but it is in Bangkok along with me at the moment.

They have them here: http://thailand.rs-online.com/web/

under Tools and Tool Storage. They have an online shop, but I have never used it. :cheers:
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I have one that you could borrow, but it is in Bangkok along with me at the moment.

They have them here: http://thailand.rs-online.com/web/
Thanks Nereus! I'll see if I can get one at the online shop and if not, PM me when you and the snake are back in town and I'll borrow yours (it's not an emergency). My cable got chewed by rats and the smart lads that went to replace it in the underground (and under sidewalk) conduit pulled out the old wire without attaching it to a new wire and using it to pull the new one through... :roll:, additionally, some other smart lads that performed the original installation a few years ago before the sidewalk was laid inserted two (now under sidewalk) 90 degree turns in the conduit :? so these new bright lads were not able to push the new cable around the corners :| . I have a temporary (Thailand bandaid) solution running on top of the sidewalk at the moment as I could never miss a day of TV! :D
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I have just dug out that one of mine, and I don`t think it would do the job. One thing it is probably not long enough, and secondly, it is not good at going around corners as it is too rigid.
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Ok, thanks. I'll try to get my wife to help me see if I can order that one from the web site or I'll wait until the next time I'm in Bangkok and buy it from the company directly.

In the meantime, if anyone sees one here, please let me know.

This is what I need (from the Bangkok Company web site):

http://thailand.rs-online.com/web/searc ... &R=2368162

Thanks :cheers:
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One year ago I would have needed such a thing for my IPSTAR- Internet connection. TOT was not willing to do the satellite installation during the building process without a blue book of the house, even if I tried to explain to them, that they should insert the cable before the plaster was applied (TIT). They came, when the house was finished and could not insert the cable into the conduit, which I had installed, because of a 90 degree bending. So I had to open up the wall again, but as we had still some colour left you can see nothing of this operation now.
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One year ago I would have needed such a thing for my IPSTAR- Internet connection. TOT was not willing to do the satellite installation during the building process without a blue book of the house, even if I tried to explain to them, that they should insert the cable before the plaster was applied (TIT). They came, when the house was finished and could not insert the cable into the conduit, which I had installed, because of a 90 degree bending. So I had to open up the wall again, but as we had still some colour left you can see nothing of this operation now.
Yes, that seems to be the method of construction here. Build the cement and steel and then tear it apart again to put in the plumbing and wiring... amazes me... :? :? :?
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hhfarang wrote: Yes, that seems to be the method of construction here. Build the cement and steel and then tear it apart again to put in the plumbing and wiring... amazes me... :? :? :?
Just returned from meeting a client at 4 homes they built. Silly contractors, they had prewired in for internet, surround sound, TV, and anything else needed, so the dummies won't need to tear it apart!! No wires about or anything. Think they need a lesson from your contractor. :cheers:
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Perhaps need to improvise HH. If I had no choice I would go out and find a spool of strong nylon or cotton sewing thread and try to wash it through with the pressure from your garden hose. Perhaps tie just a small chunk of styrofoam to it to help float the thread through. I would think with a few tries this would work.

You could also try the fishing line used for leaders. This is stiff enough to be threaded down the conduit. Not the normal monofilament, but the leader line used between lure/weights and the normal line.

Last option is a trained chingchoke but don't tie the line to his tail as they come off. :shock: :D Pete :cheers:
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hhfarang wrote:Yes, that seems to be the method of construction here. Build the cement and steel and then tear it apart again to put in the plumbing and wiring... amazes me... :? :? :?
Do you mean build the cement and steel (structure), then build the brick walls, then cut chases in the brickwork for the conduits and pipework, then render/plaster over ? That's the standard method the world over isn't it ?

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prcscct wrote:Perhaps need to improvise HH. If I had no choice I would go out and find a spool of strong nylon or cotton sewing thread and try to wash it through with the pressure from your garden hose. Perhaps tie just a small chunk of styrofoam to it to help float the thread through. I would think with a few tries this would work.

You could also try the fishing line used for leaders. This is stiff enough to be threaded down the conduit. Not the normal monofilament, but the leader line used between lure/weights and the normal line.

Last option is a trained chingchoke but don't tie the line to his tail as they come off. :shock: :D Pete :cheers:
On the offchance you may have, or have access to, a air compressor, Pete reminded me of something.

Many years back when I worked construction we used a compressor, ball of string, and (really) a drink umbrella to shoot the string through. If too many angles, perhaps a ball of paper, something to plug the air. :cheers:
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youll be lucky to get it round a 90 deg bend.
if there are existing wires in the conduit then use one of them, or best to go at it from both ends and use a slight hook on one end to catch the other.
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just re read what you wrote and see that you have 2 x 90 deg bends.
major headache. :cry: :cry:

knock it out and do it proper like. :?
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Perhaps need to improvise HH. If I had no choice I would go out and find a spool of strong nylon or cotton sewing thread and try to wash it through with the pressure from your garden hose. Perhaps tie just a small chunk of styrofoam to it to help float the thread through. I would think with a few tries this would work.

You could also try the fishing line used for leaders. This is stiff enough to be threaded down the conduit. Not the normal monofilament, but the leader line used between lure/weights and the normal line.

Last option is a trained chingchoke but don't tie the line to his tail as they come off.
All good ideas Pete... I especially liked the last one! Working on that now; got the little bugger to play dead but that's all so far... maybe I tied the string to tight around his little neck... :D
Do you mean build the cement and steel (structure), then build the brick walls, then cut chases in the brickwork for the conduits and pipework, then render/plaster over ? That's the standard method the world over isn't it ?


SJ,

You are probably correct as you are much more familiar with this type of construction than I am. All of the homes I've owned in the past have been framed structures that had hollow walls with sheet rock (gypsum) over either steel or wood studs inside and brick, wood siding, or stucco on the outside (much more common in the states than cement block).

The one thing that my builder did that I really couldn't understand though is put in the plumbing, seal the walls and then install the pumps and apply pressure to the system... of course there were massive leaks in all four bathrooms and the walls had to be ripped open again to fix them! :?
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