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Quote:JD's good comment
Probably gathering for the final party.

Abhisit has nothing left. He can only resign as far as I can see.

At 2.30 pm, VPM Suthep announces that 7,000 riot personnel will use force to stop the reds from entering the ThaiCom compound.

At 2.40 pm the reds had control of the compound, the police and army had mostly fled the scene to a field nearby.

At 3.40 pm some of the riot forces were back in the compound with the reds, dancing and singing along, sharing water, coffee and food.

Abhisit has no power, the police and army are not willing to do as he orders. This is much the same situation as when the yellows protested just over a year ago.

I just hope the yellows do not turn up to do what Abhisit can't.

Abhisit has to start kicking some arses and show some strength of office. If he can't get the army or police to do their jobs, he will be out of a job soon.
You are abso"freakinlutely right JD! IMO Abhisit is a good, Charismatic and Charming leader but serioulsy lacks the courage of doing something decisively that would show stregmth in Power.
One thing is for sure as long as the constitution of Thailand is not changed from it's current version the cycle of protests would go on and even if the PT Party wins it. The Yellow shirters will be up again preventing a functioning Govt. under Thaksin S. so hte cycle closes once again.
I believe when the 17 leaders are captured there will be a swift trial unlike right now withe the current Govt. not even a hint of a Trial date has been mentioend to prosecute all the Yellow leaders who had occupied Swampy Airport, occupied Don Muang airport. and so on.
JD. lets not kid ourselves we are witnessing double standards at it's best!

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The tide is turning again. Massive troop movements and the TV channel is off again per this report. Pete :cheers:

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Abhisit vows to defy reds
- Soldiers retake Thaicom station

http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/local/3 ... -defy-reds

* Published: 10/04/2010 at 12:00 AM
* Newspaper section: News Bangkok Post

Embattled Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva has vowed to defy mounting pressure on him by the red shirts to force a House dissolution.

More than a thousand anti-government demonstrators storm the Thaicom satellite station in Pathum Thani’s Lat Lum Kaeo district to protest the government’s decision to stop the prored shirt PTV cable channel from broadcasting. WEERAWONG WONGPREEDEE

Last night, he said his government will mobilise all forces and legal measures necessary to put an end to their protest.

The prime minister's TV address came hours after columns of the red-shirted United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD) protesters broke through lines of troops and forced thousands of them to withdraw from the Thaicom Plc ground station, the broadcaster of the red shirt People Channel TV (PTV), in Pathum Thani's Lat Lum Kaeo district yesterday afternoon."It's not over yet," said Mr Abhisit. "I'm confident if we stay true to righteousness, we will win the day," he said. "I'm aware of the emotional pain people felt today.We want righteousness to prevail," Mr Abhisit said.

"We cannot afford to be despondent and we will mobilise all the resources and manpower to preserve the rule of law," he said.

Late last night, Mr Abhisit ordered the army to deploy 30 companies, or about 4,500 soldiers, to retake the Thaicom station and cut off the PTV signal again, which they did.

Following the UDD's move yesterday at Thaicom, an army source said a mass mobilisation of forces, including 15,000 troops from the 2nd and 3rd armies, indicated a possible crackdown on red shirt demonstrators at Ratchaprasong intersection was in the offing.

The source said Supreme Commander Songkitti Jaggabatara might be appointed to supervise the overall situation if it was decided to disperse the crowd.

"In terms of the military operations, it will be [deputy army chief] Gen Prayuth [Chan-ocha] taking charge," said the source, adding that highly-respected figures have sent a signal to the prime minister and Gen Prayuth to end the demonstration before the Songkran festival, which starts on Tuesday.

Privy Council president Prem Tinsulanonda is reportedly hopeful that he will be able to accept well-wishers during the Songkran holiday.

At about 3pm yesterday, water cannon and tear gas were employed to contain the UDD protesters but to no avail. However, a number of soldiers were also affected by the tear gas.

UDD protesters suffering from the tear gas were seen giving first aid to one another and as well as to some soldiers.

At least 21 people, 15 UDD protesters, five soldiers, and one police officer, were injured in the clashes between the protesters and the security forces. They mostly sustained minor wounds.

Led by UDD co-leader Natthawut Saikua, the protesters also searched seven military vehicles parked in the compound of the satellite station after they got in.

The red shirts showed media a large number of bullets they said they had seized from the vehicles.

The protesters later agreed to leave the station after negotiating with Pol Lt Col Krisada Phankhongchuen, chief of Provincial Police Region 1. They were promised PTV would go back on air.

The government had on Thursday yanked the UDD's channel from the airwaves for allegedly spreading distorted information aimed at generating hatred against the government and posing a threat to national security after the declaration of the state of emergency. This prompted the UDD to lay siege to the station to return the PTV signal.

Following the Lat Lum Kaeo incident, an army source said there were no clear orders for what the troops deployed to handle the protesters there should do or not do when dealing with them.

"It's suspected that those soldiers are watermelon officers," said the source, referring to slang widely used at the moment to describe soldiers who wear green uniforms yet support the red shirts with all their hearts.

Gen Prayuth had been assigned by army commander Anupong Paojinda to be in charge of handling the UDD protest because he did not want to be the one making decisions on the matter, the source said.

Ousted prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra phoned in to thank his red shirt supporters last night.

He said he was so overwhelmed by what the red shirts had done he wanted to cry. Before signing off, he said he hoped to see democracy and justice returned to the country in a few days.
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My GFs Brother is doing his Army ballot today.

It's good to see what he could be getting himself involved in. :clap:

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As of now (Saturday afternoon) soldiers are clearing Bangkok of Red Shirts. This includes the downtown business/shopping district areas. Estimates say there are only about 8,500 left in town. No reports yet of any regrouping and attacks elsewhere either in or out of the city. Also no reports of the methods the soldiers are using except water cannons, or if the Red Shirts are fighting back. Pete :cheers:
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Update at 1530 hours: All skytrain and subway stations/service, and all shopping malls in the Red Shirt area have been shut as the Army/Police start operations. Pete :cheers:
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It aint over yet

The volcano is already active and when it blows it will blow big

Better get working on the ark again. 2012 a long way away but may need early sea trails. Barry, got a big slipway????
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Trials not trails

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one thing that does strike me on watching todays live news is the piss poor level of training or commitment the Thai forces show when doing riot control. A less co-ordinated shambolic mob than the protestors they are meant to be controlling.

Has nobody bothered to train these idiots properly, or are they just incapable of forming up and maintaining a cohesive formation? I watched one news feed today of a section of riot troops forming up - they wandered aout into the street, stood about looking round and chatting, then after a couple of minutes formed up into a raggedy line. All the time their commander was running back and forth trying to get them to form up.... utter fing clownshoes.

How many times does the mob have to win out before they work out that shields work best when locked into each other as a phalanx?

God help the reds if they faced off against the German, French or Met Police riot squads.

In the USA the cops would have maced, clubbed and beanbagged the buggers into submission by now.

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They also seem to have no protection from their own use of tear gas.
Latest reports indicate 5-8 deaths including a Japanese photographer.
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Well it seems the fireworks have started :guns: :guns: :guns:
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richard wrote:Well it seems the fireworks have started :guns: :guns: :guns:
Yes, sadly and predictably. Abhisit is a product of Oxbridge and they should hang their collective heads in shame at the number of puppets (muppets) they have spawned.

Very sad.
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There's too much to update. Best for everyone to go to http://www.bangkokpost.com/ and http://www.nationmultimedia.com/home/ So far it appears 15 dead including a Japanese cameraman and 678 injured, many soldiers held hostage, and it has spilled over into Khao San road which is loaded with foreign backpackers. :( :( Pete
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Seems like another coup on the way! Just what the battling hotels and local business owners need! At least they waited for low season i suppose?
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tj wrote:Seems like another coup on the way!
Maybe a good thing. After all, it seems as though only the army has enough backbone to put an end to a bunch of childish idiots causing trouble.


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Irrespective of whether the reds are right or wrong, they only represent a very small percentage of this country's population. Maybe the army should start using more severe measures against protesters no matter what bloody t-shirts they're wearing.[/quote]
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19 dead, 807 injured in Bangkok clashes
By DUANGKAMON SAJIRAWATTANAKUL
THE NATION ON SUNDAY

BANGKOK: -- At least nineteen people were reported to have died and 807 injured from clashes between security forces and red-shirt demonstrators in different parts of the capital, National Emergency Centre's director Phetpong Kamchornkijakarn said late last night.

He said of the casualties, nine were civilians and two were soldiers. Of the civilians killed, eight were red-shirt protesters, while the ninth was a Japanese man who worked as a photographer for Thomson-Reuters.

As of press time on Saturday, six of the dead, including the photographer, had been sent to Central Hospital; two sent to Hua Chiew Hospital; three to Vajira Hospital, which included two soldiers and a 50-year-old red-shirt protester who succumbed to a heart attack.

The Japanese photographer, Hiroyuki Muramoto, died from a gunshot wound to his chest.

Of the red-shirt protesters, one of the dead was identified as 38-year-old Wasan Phoothong, who worked as a tailor in Samut Prakan province; while one was a 43-year-old guard for the movement. Another red-shirt protester killed was Sawat Wa-ngam, who, according to protest leader weng Tojirakarn, had died from a head injury.

Of the two dead soldiers, one was killed by a gunshot wound to his neck.

According to reports, the biggest clash took place in Bangkok's Khok Wua intersection, where about 20 soldiers, a resident and a protester were injured. The victims were taken to hospitals nearby.

Vajira Hospital's director Dr Wanchai Charoenchokthavee said 51 injured people were admitted to the hospital, including 13 soldiers and one protester, who was sustained severe injuries to his lungs and stomach. Another protester was shot in his bottom. As of press time, the injured were undergoing surgery.

Earlier reports said another foreign journalist was shot in the head at Khok Wua intersection, and Wanchai said a foreigner called John Yinglin was among the injured. However, he could not confirm if he was a foreign journalist.

Meanwhile, Central Hospital director Dr Pitchaya Nakwatchara said yesterday that 30 injured people had been brought in from the Khok Wua intersection and Makkawan-Rangsan Bridge protest sites, of which 29 were civilians and one was a solider who had sustained head injury. Of the injured, three had gunshot wounds, including an ABC-News freelance photographer Winai Ditthajorn who was shot in his left leg.

He added that red-shirt protesters had also presented medical staff with some rubber bullets found in the clash site. Pitchaya confirmed that his hospital staff was on standby round the clock.

The hospital director later revealed X-rays of the three injured people, showing that Winai had been shot by what appeared to be a real bullet, while the two red-shirt protesters, Samak Khamsameu and Tag Benjamas, had been hit by a rubber bullet. As of press time, the three were undergoing surgery and will be under observation for three days.

Public Health Minister Jurin Laksanavisit, who is also chairman of the National Emergency Centre, said of the six soldiers sent to Siriraj Hospital, one had sustained a gunshot. He went on say that he had told all 79 emergency centres nationwide to work with Bangkok hospitals.

Emergency Medical Institute of Thailand's secretary-general Chatree Charoencheevakul said he expected the numbers of casualties to rise further, adding that he had put 1,000 medical staff and 150 ambulances on standby.


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