What's the cow law these days?
What's the cow law these days?
Not completely sure where to put this as it falls under a few sections but as I was out on the countryside roads then I'll stick it here. I was driving along and came upon a crowd of Thais gathered at the side of the road, a dead or close to cow and a Thai guys car that was completely caved in. We all know when you leave the urban areas then the cows are everywhere and often unattended, but what's the law on it if you hit one or if it suddenly runs out, I hear conflicting stories about it depends on what time it happens or it's the farmers/your fault. Don't bother posting about it's always the farang's fault etc, heard it all before. Anyone know what the deal is for the locals when they get mixed up in it, ie who's to blame? If anyone knows then good to spread the word. Cheers.
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If Roel reads this thread, he'll be able to shed some light on the situation. I know he hit one coming back from Ranong a number of years ago. I can't remember what the outcome was, other than a dented car for sure.
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Buy the cow and get it slaughtered and reap the profit from selling on
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Well - According to Mrs.T
By law, farmers are responsible for keeping control of their animals.
SO
If you hit one on the road, you can sue the farmer for damage to your vehicle.
Good luck
By law, farmers are responsible for keeping control of their animals.
SO
If you hit one on the road, you can sue the farmer for damage to your vehicle.
Good luck
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Correct. The outcome was that I did not wait to find out who is going to pay who there and then. I did not really expect the Thai owner to show up apologize and offer me money. Later I asked several Thais the very same question as Spitfire. I got different information than Terry here because I was told that a driver of a vehicle is held responsible for an accident with an animal. Reasoning that the animal just walks there but you are the one in control. Makes sort of sense. Also they told me (and there were many and they all agreed) that Thai law says that from animal - pedestrian - bicycle - motorbike - car - truck in principle always the bigger one is to blame, BUT the police is there to judge every accident case by case. So the Thai police is not only there to report (as in Europe) but actually to determine who is at fault, hence going to pay.
Apart from the no-matter-what,-the-farang-is-always-going to pay-stereotype (not true) I can imagine that the reaction of the farmer is different whether the cow has been hit by an old pick-up with number plate from another province or by the phu yai baan's son in his new BMW.
Thought: Farmers might be responsible for their animals in (all) other situations (damage to property like eating the neighbours crop etc.).
Apart from the no-matter-what,-the-farang-is-always-going to pay-stereotype (not true) I can imagine that the reaction of the farmer is different whether the cow has been hit by an old pick-up with number plate from another province or by the phu yai baan's son in his new BMW.
Thought: Farmers might be responsible for their animals in (all) other situations (damage to property like eating the neighbours crop etc.).
We are all living in 'the good old days' of the future.
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I'm just always very careful when driving near cattle on the basis of the fact that the cow is hardly going to be aware of Thai traffic law and the average cattle herder is normally very poor and is certainly not going to be in a situation to pay for damage to your vehicle if you hit one.
Personally, I would say that unless the cow literally commits suicide by leaping in front of your car, it's your fault for driving too fast near cattle.
Often cattle are herded down the road in rural areas, so even if they're being controlled by the farmer, they're still in the road, so it's hardly his fault if you hit one.
Personally, I would say that unless the cow literally commits suicide by leaping in front of your car, it's your fault for driving too fast near cattle.
Often cattle are herded down the road in rural areas, so even if they're being controlled by the farmer, they're still in the road, so it's hardly his fault if you hit one.
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Been asking around about this. All confirm Thai law says driver always at fault.
So it would have been my fault although there was nothing I could have done to avoid the collision. There was no herd or other cattle. Calf came running towards me in the opposite lane in between two oncoming cars. But I could not see the calf because it was out of sight behind the first car. This would have been a good moment to light signal me but they saved those signals for more important situations like crossing an intersection at 140 km/h. However I felt there was something going on because the cars were driving so slowly and therefore I slowed down too. Then I first saw the calf when it decided to change lanes right in front of my car. If I had still be doing 100+ it could well have come through the windshield. Reckon it broke one to four legs. Five or six cars must have seen the accident but nobody was interested, no one stopped, whereupon I also decided to go home.
So it would have been my fault although there was nothing I could have done to avoid the collision. There was no herd or other cattle. Calf came running towards me in the opposite lane in between two oncoming cars. But I could not see the calf because it was out of sight behind the first car. This would have been a good moment to light signal me but they saved those signals for more important situations like crossing an intersection at 140 km/h. However I felt there was something going on because the cars were driving so slowly and therefore I slowed down too. Then I first saw the calf when it decided to change lanes right in front of my car. If I had still be doing 100+ it could well have come through the windshield. Reckon it broke one to four legs. Five or six cars must have seen the accident but nobody was interested, no one stopped, whereupon I also decided to go home.
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Interesting, cheers everyone. To be honest Roel, lucky you were able to still drive on and not wait for anyone to show up and make it more complicated. The guy I saw must have had to stay and face the music as his car was totalled good and proper, cow looked like an adult.
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Yes, it looks like in Roels case it was a suicidal cow that you really can't do anything about.
I once had the same thing driving through a forest in Germany when a large wild boar decided to end it all by leaping in front of the minibus I was in.
I once had the same thing driving through a forest in Germany when a large wild boar decided to end it all by leaping in front of the minibus I was in.
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I've experienced (not here) what a large dog can do running at speed and hitting your car, caved the front wheel well fender into the tire and destroyed it. Dog bounced off and kept going.
A Moose is more or less the size of an adult cow. Here's what they do often in Alaska and Maine. Pete
A Moose is more or less the size of an adult cow. Here's what they do often in Alaska and Maine. Pete
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Saab moose test.
http://www.saabhistory.com/2008/11/26/t ... oose-test/
It's the same model I'm driving at the moment.
http://www.saabhistory.com/2008/11/26/t ... oose-test/
It's the same model I'm driving at the moment.
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When I was comin outa Nong Ki,(every time my Mrs had just shoe-horned the entire stock of the day-market into the back of my Nissan)..theres always a great herd of cows crossing the road/walking up it, and she tells me its naughty of the farmer 'cos its after 4.00pm. Now she's mentioned this daily 'time-slot' to me before where the farmer is not responsible for any accident 'tween say 7am & 4pm. This could be local Nong-Ki law or Issaan-wide law...I dunno??
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In teh Emirates it used to be simple, Hit an animal during daylight it is teh Drivers fault, by night the animals. Friend of mine wrote off his mercedes hitting a donkey at night. Police just said Mafi Mushkala, Mai pen Rai, and offered him to take take the carcass home for the Barbeque 
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ah.....
I thought you meant an Issan Ferrari
meanwhile, back in Texas
I thought you meant an Issan Ferrari
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