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A refferance from both of your employers will be good too.

My wife could read and write english to a reasonable standard when we met, on our application we submited two stuffed folders full of photos, massive phone bills, :oops: phone cards, over 200 e-mails printed off, a letter from my company, utility bills, proof of morgage, and bank statements.
We had only been seeing each other for 3 months, but we put our hearts into it and they even brought the application forward my wife was granted fiancee visa in 5 months of meeting so i went back out for a two weeker and we came back together.

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usual suspect wrote:As mentioned in an earlier post a well worded letter from her Thai employer stating she has been given leave from work within chosen dates is very good too.
I know it's more doom & gloom, but I've seen 2 refusals (and could provide at least one, probably both as evidence) this year citing just that as the reason for refusal. The Embassy stated on both occassions that no good Thai employer could afford to lose their employee for a long period, such as a holiday.
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Big Boy wrote:
usual suspect wrote:As mentioned in an earlier post a well worded letter from her Thai employer stating she has been given leave from work within chosen dates is very good too.
I know it's more doom & gloom, but I've seen 2 refusals (and could provide at least one, probably both as evidence) this year citing just that as the reason for refusal. The Embassy stated on both occassions that no good Thai employer could afford to lose their employee for a long period, such as a holiday.
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The main problem I have is that I'm not even resident in the UK so I've got no chance.
I would only want to take my partner there for a week or two for a holiday, but there doesn't seem to be any reasonable way of getting that.
The UK doesn't even recognize EU visit visas which are supposed to be valid for the entire community.
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Actually you would have more chance of taking your girlfriend on holiday to the UK as you are not resident there. Those guys who live in the UK and want to bring their girlfriends over for holidays, of anything up to six months, are the ones that really get the problems as the ECO might, rightly or wrongly, believe that the girlfriends would simply stay in the UK. Likewise if a couple live together in Thailand it would be easier to get a visa as they should be able to prove that they would return to Thailand together, though they still have to tick all the boxes.

The UK certainly does recognise visits for EU nationals and their spouses, you still have to apply though it's free.
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Governor wrote:Actually you would have more chance of taking your girlfriend on holiday to the UK as you are not resident there. .....
I've actually been thinking the same thing all day concerning this thread. Me with a US passport goes and applies for a UK visa for Thai wife with Thai passport to go on holiday. Probably see me/her as no threat to overstay. Pete :cheers:
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^^^
And likewise a UK/EU national would find it easier to take a girlfriend to the UK, though in both cases you still need to convince the ECO or Consular Official that you are indeed a couple.
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The UK certainly does recognise visits for EU nationals and their spouses, you still have to apply though it's free.
My colleague was here in Luxembourg last year with his Thai wife and daughter who were living in Luxembourg on EU visit visas, which were supposed to be valid for the whole EU and they were refused entry to the UK for a holiday.
I think it is down to the UK refusing to sign the Shengen agreement.
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No it's totally separate from the Schengen agreement which allows visa holders free travel within the Schengen Area.

The EU, including the UK, allows free travel for all citizens and their spouses, even if they are not resident in the UK, there was a court ruling a few years ago that clarified this. That said, if the spouse of an EU citizen is not a citizen themselves, they must apply for a EEA Family Permit, still from UKBA, it's valid for six months and is free, have a read through this: http://www.ukvisas.gov.uk/en/ecg/eunati ... t#22134336

I suspect your mate and his family just got the Schengen Visa and pitched up at the UK border, that's why they would have been refused entry.
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thanks for all the replys guys , i didnt know it was so complicated ! :? it seems the uk is one of the hardest places in europe just to take my girfriend on holiday :roll: bit of a joke really when you think of all the illegals living there... this article sums up the uk http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -area.html

i was wanting to take her sight seeing around europe as well as she has never been out of thailand before.

our house in hua hin is in my name but the land in hers if that helps, i own my own house in the uk as well , she isnt currently working , i still live and work in england and am over here 3/4 times a year. so it seems there are maybe pros and cons to both sides.

where do i get the ball rolling on this ? the british embassy in bangkok ?
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The schengen visa is an agreement the UK refused to sign, at the moment myself an my Thai are living in Greece. She came over on a schengen visa now has a residency card because she is married to an EU. I am now in the wierd situation that as a British/English citizen we can legally live in Greece and Thailand but not the country of my birth.
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Yes, that's the situation my colleague was in; he was legal in Luxembourg but was refused the family permit to take his wife and daughter to the UK for a holiday.
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Yes lindosfan, that's where it gets silly, as you have found out a UK national cannot exercise their right as a UK national to live in their own country with their partner under EU family permit regulations, they have to apply, and pay for a settlement visa. Likewise a Greek person could not bring his wife to Greece under those regulations.

If your wife got a Greek passport, then she could enter and live in the UK as an EU national, all rather bizarre.

This has nothing to do with the Schengen area, which Ireland, Romania and Bulgaria also haven't signed.
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One of the problems has been that in my part of North Africa many young men have married older British women only to leave or divorce them when they finally got to the UK. I suppose the UK authorities then made it difficult for all spouses to travel to Britain using the scattergun approach.
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