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StevePIraq wrote:
malcolminthemiddle wrote:Talking about Wills.

If you have assets in Thailand and outside, say in the UK, you need two (2) Wills one for each location.

Estates in UK are subject to probate which might be difficult for a Thai partner to manage. In these cases an independent, professional executor such as the lawyer who wrote up the Will provides a solution.

In Thailand I understand there is no equivalent of probate, the original Will is the governing instrument so make sure it is drawn up by a reliable and professional firm to meet THai legal requirements. Don't try and save a few baht when the future livelihood of the ones you love are at stake.

Damn, Would you know if this also applies to Australia as I have assets there and never thought about how to manage them, I thought the one WILL would suffice
Yes it does. I am from OZ and have two wills, on the advice of Lawyers in both countries.
You need to consider what effect your demise would have on relatives in OZ. They probably do not know the Thai system, and you may cause a situation that you never intended. :cheers:
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Spitfire wrote:
Worried about your loved one planning to bump you off?
No.

And if you are then you've made a poor choice and should free yourself from said detrimental situation instead of making a will to combat it. :?
Once upon a time I would have agreed with that Spitfire. Now - sadly - there has been a major mood swing amongst some Farang - no doubt brought about by one or two murders in HuaHin in quick succession. Not a situation some take lightly.
And I have known several farang who have been convinced they have found the love of their life - and trusted them completely - only to find themselves betrayed, robbed, or worse.
Rose tinted glasses are fine until something goes wrong. The majority of Thai women are still sound and trustworthy - but they can all - without exception - be influenced by their families and by what they see others getting away with. Very few farang are in a position to judge who would come first in final pecking order.
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Marge said...
The majority of Thai women are still sound and trustworthy -
I would agree with this. Though.....
The majority of Thai woman whom are married to farang are not to be trusted. Just have as look at where they came from and you get a rough idea.
'I told you so' is certainly the wrong words to be using during this time as no-body deserves what has happened to some innocent foreigners but really..... come on, it ain't rocket Science to figure out if the girl loves you or your money!!
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Fair enough Margaret, we do hear all the horror stories a little too often these days but I suppose it can happen to anyone anywhere, doubt it's a phenomenon confined to Thailand, forgive the exuberance/optimism of my 30s in some posts. You do also have to remember that there are many success stories that we simply don't hear about because they aren't as interesting as the bad ones, not newsworthy as much.

I suppose you have to take a chance, which is what it's all about, otherwise you'd never have a decent relationship. Maybe marriage is a younger man's game, as you need to really believe in it now as there are so many obstacles put in the way of a successful one by society and the modern life that it's amazing that any survive really.

I guess what I was getting at is that if you are contemplating the subject of this thread in your relationship, then should you even be in a relationship with that person? Maybe marriage is not for you, just live it up with the girls instead, don't need to marry a woman here to have regular good company or someone take care of you. Why bother marrying again? Is there any point if you've moved out here to enjoy retirement, especially if you have a failed marriage or two behind you?

There are a few things to blame for the proliferation of mercenary attitudes or crimes fueled by avarice and one of them is the modern world and the spread of western lifestyles/culture (and how much money you need to have it). This has corrupted them through the TV or other media and has fueled their thirst for material wealth at all costs, as it gives them that ever so valuable Asian thing called 'face'. Mix this in with the fact that money is scare at the moment for all due to financial collapse with less jobs everywhere and crimes like fraud or worse with a monetary reward at the end will/are inevitably go/going up.

It's the crime of greed and I can only see it getting worse as time marches on, too many people, not enough jobs or money to go round, the aspired to lifestyles and all the fine things in life forced down everyone's throats everyday through the media. All of this cultivates an unhealthy disposition in many and corrupts priorities/values to the point where the acquisition of money is all intoxicating and the ends justify the means.

However, having said all of that, then if you are 60 and marry a girl 30-35 years younger than you that looks like a waif from a FHM magazine, and tell her that she can live with you in your 3-4million baht villa by the beach or house in a housing estate, then what do you expect? :roll:
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Spitfire said...
However, having said all of that, then if you are 60 and marry a girl 30-35 years younger than you that looks like a waif from a FHM magazine, and tell her that she can live with you in your 3-4million baht villa by the beach or house in a housing estate, then what do you expect?
Hit the nail on the head there. What I was getting at when I said....
If you are an old fart married to a beautiful young lass it is probably better to be safe than sorry. Unless you're daft you know they aint with you for your looks and conversation.
It still amazes me when I see foreigners BELIEVING that this beautiful young lady married HIM for love...... nothing else. Course she did buddy.... she LOVES those huge love handles of yours, and that belly, ooh la la...... she LOVES that gray hair........ she LOVES your 'energetic' lifestyle........ she LOVES listening to you waffle on after a few bottles. :roll: :roll:

Now I can tick 'ALL OF THE ABOVE' when describing myself, the difference is that my wife has her own job (did when I met her also), she certainly aint beautiful anymore (same age as myself, as she was when I met her surpisingly!) and we actually share a hell of a lot in common which is where the initial attraction towards each other grew from (If you're with someone you should share SOME interests - drinking aside). I have never 'splashed out' or thrown money around in our umpteen years of marriage as I....... wait for it...... didn't need to as she is with me for more than my money (crazy eh!).
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I read a news story somewhere else about an American's murder (not in Hua Hin) and it stated that the police did not consider his companion a suspect because they were married.

In the U.S., when there is a suspicious death, the spouse is number one on the suspect list until they are cleared and is the culprit about 50% of the time so why would the authorities here assume the opposite? :? :? :?
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hhfarang wrote:I read a news story somewhere else about an American's murder (not in Hua Hin) and it stated that the police did not consider his companion a suspect because they were married.

In the U.S., when there is a suspicious death, the spouse is number one on the suspect list until they are cleared and is the culprit about 50% of the time so why would the authorities here assume the opposite? :? :? :?
As per 20 years ago in Australia the most 'common' MURDERER (and most likely to not be prosecuted even when discovered) was dear old granny doing in grandpa by methods such as 'innocently' giving him multiple times the correct does of his heart medicine, etc. before she departs on her world tour / 'new' life!

Those closest tend to be the most dangeous everywhere partly due to having the most opportunity if tempted by 'this and that' desire, but it was Eve who ate the snakes apple and soiled the garden not Adam.
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As mentioned above, it happens everywhere:
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/08/30 ... &wom=false
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STEVE G wrote:As mentioned above, it happens everywhere:
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/08/30 ... &wom=false
a week after she buried her husband, she moved in with her 'new' man :shock: :shock:
surely that should have set alarm bells ringing somewhere???? :shock: :?
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hhfarang wrote:I read a news story somewhere else about an American's murder (not in Hua Hin) and it stated that the police did not consider his companion a suspect because they were married.

In the U.S., when there is a suspicious death, the spouse is number one on the suspect list until they are cleared and is the culprit about 50% of the time so why would the authorities here assume the opposite? :? :? :?
Wow that's scary HHF. Certainly the spouse/partner would be No.1 suspect in the UK as well. One reason in fact for the spouse being given the opportunity to make a televised appeal in the case of a missing person - to analyse their behaviour.
I wonder if anything is being lost in translation with some of these reports? Or am I being too generous today! Or maybe the MIB were just being very clever and hoping to flush out the perp? :wink:
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