The new Bangkok Hospital in Hua Hin

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Re: The new Bangkok Hospital in Hua Hin

Post by Dr Mike » Fri Sep 17, 2010 7:54 am

Out patient Clinics--Phase 2
The OP department should swing into action in the Spring, April or May hopefully. There will be a General Medical CInic for everyday problems and Check-ups. Internal Medicine. Cardialogy, Surgery, Ortopedics,Pediatrics, Obstetrics and Gynecology, ENT. Other sub-specialty Clinics, Gastro-Intestinal,Dematology will also open but may be not all at once. Aswe get closer the dates will get more precise.

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Re: The new Bangkok Hospital in Hua Hin

Post by elem » Fri Sep 17, 2010 3:41 pm

Thank you Dr. Mike, please keep us updated on the progress of these services.
I had a pretty scary experience in SP during a severe lung infection last year, and would prefer not to have to go back there.
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Post by PeteC » Sun Sep 19, 2010 3:52 pm

Have we covered dental? The Bangkok Group hospitals I'm familiar with all have a very good dental department. Will Hua Hin? Pete :cheers:
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Re: The new Bangkok Hospital in Hua Hin

Post by Dr Mike » Mon Sep 20, 2010 10:35 am

LABoratory Tests.
Each hospital in our group has its own Lab and the everyday tests, probably 95+% of the tests are donr in thr hospital. With the amazing new technology these test results are available in lesst han an hour, sometimesi n a fewminutes. Others,such as the study of Bacteria can take a few days. For the more complicated tests we have a lab in BKK,run buy an associated company N.Health that offers itss ervices to over twenty hospitals in Thaialnd and neighboring countries This Lab is open 24/7 and the results are transmitted on a very secure system to the Dr who ordered the tests.
For patients who need the monitoring of such things astheir Cholesterol or the effect of anti-coagulents a continuing check system can be arranged.
In phase 1when only Emergency services are offered,those tests needed for an Emergency diagnosis will b e available locally--- Full Lab serviceswill be available a few months later.

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Re: The new Bangkok Hospital in Hua Hin

Post by richard » Mon Sep 20, 2010 2:37 pm

ALL GOOD NEWS

However, I think one thing praying on peoples minds will be costs. Early days, I know, but any indication as to how your costs will stack up against local establishments?

A question that is always on the minds of those of us with inadequate or no insurance
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Post by Khundon1975 » Fri Sep 24, 2010 10:27 pm

I did not get an answer from you last time Doc, so I will repeat my post. :D

Some good info there Dr Mike. :thumb:

Now a more general question, will there be one pricing structure for Thai and farang customers?


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Re: The new Bangkok Hospital in Hua Hin

Post by Dr Mike » Sun Sep 26, 2010 8:51 pm

Answer to some of the comments/questions involving costs.

The Bangkok Hospital Group is top of the line. WE are the Intercontinental, the Hilton, the Marriot. It was decided that this is what HH was lacking. Our costs are comparable with the other International Hospitals in BKK.
We do not have a double price list for Thai and foreign patients.
What we are doing more and more is offering Fixed prices for surgical procedures, so that there will be no surprises when the bill arrives. If you need a new Hip and have no other serious medical problems (such as Diabetes or Heart disease) that are likely to cause complications then you will be quoted a fixed price for the Hip replacement.

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Re: The new Bangkok Hospital in Hua Hin

Post by icebear » Mon Sep 27, 2010 3:05 pm

I would like to share my opinion on the level of the services provided by BH Group:

I had several operations done and all with great success and no complications, friendly staff, clean rooms, good food and other services in BKK and in Phuket, but at a high price and the feeling was, that when presenting the insurance card, prices have gone up steadily.

After many years using them, I would say that without an international insurance policy you would not enter BH Group unless you've plenty cash to burn and I am also mentioning OPD, which comes in at premium price levels.

Same the doctor says and he mentioned high-end hotels, you'll end up paying for services rendered accordingly.

The observation is based on the last 10 years using BH Group. IMHO.

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Post by Super Joe » Tue Sep 28, 2010 1:44 am

I've spent 30 odd years moaning, and listening to every other Brit moaning, about how the quality and waiting times in UK 'hospitals'. Now we're going to get that service we want it too be busier :?

We've used Samitivej from the BH Group for anything remotely serious and never found the prices that much more than SP or Petchaburi, the difference in value was astronomical ofcourse. We're not rich and it wasn't cheap, top quality never is, but it's affordable. The site sponsor AA insurance (who I don't know from Adam), posted the following guideline costs of health insurance, which seem reasonable and far less than people pay back home in NI payments, or for private health insurance: http://www.huahinafterdark.com/forum/vi ... 62#p183262

As KhunDon rightly said, a bit of extra money is worth it if "it means I survive to spend the rest", that's what this organisation is offering us all imo, and from what I've experienced in BKK they deserve every penny, they helped produce our son under difficult circumstances after all, although if his behavour doesn't improve we might be asking DrMike for our money back :D

If we can't be ar$ed to do our bit and get insurance to protect our families, we want to be having a word with ourselves not the new hospital.

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Re: The new Bangkok Hospital in Hua Hin

Post by Farang » Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:31 pm

I wouldn't. If this happen you will have thousands of people every day in this hospital and we really need a good one to replace Sao Paulo.[/quote]

Any bad hospital would be a good replacement for San Paulo, as in paramedics to replace an abattoir.
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Re: The new Bangkok Hospital in Hua Hin

Post by Farang » Tue Sep 28, 2010 1:30 pm

Dr Mike,

Welcome to the board and thank you for asking. I’ve been a frequent hospital patient in various parts in Asia as well as an interpreter in couple of more esoteric farang speeches, so I have been even more frequently in hospitals as an interpreter for other patients. Based on these experiences these are some of the points observed:

1. Take into account the patient’s size: make sure your stretchers, beds, and above all wheel-chairs and toilet seats can accommodate a beefy farang of 350 lb and 6’8”. Do not send out your own ambulance out with small stretcher and a couple of 100 lb kids to carry the patient.
Do not let the builders install in your hospital toilet seats that are no more than thimbles at skirting-board. You know the type where ones jewellery floats in the water amongst the brown stuff. Make sure you have toilet seat extenders for those with leg or back injuries.

2. Another thing about the patient’s size: make sure your beefy 350 lb farang patients do not get the average medication intended for a 100 lb Asian. For this point alone an experienced patient in an Asian hospital will always have his own medication with him, particularly the more acute medication; painkillers and diarrhoea tablets.

3. Make sure toilet pans and urine bottles are of plastic, not of stainless steel. No matter how cheaply The Spanish Inquisition provides you with stainless steel.

4. Make sure the signage for the First Aid is easily found and understood. More often than not the emergency patients arrive with someone who never before has been near your hospital. (Just see how hard it is to find the entrance to San Paulo emergency!)

5. Make sure your beds, starting from First Aid/Emergency, are not slabs of concrete covered by vinyl or other such artificial material inducing instant bedsores. Nor should the pillows be of brick covered by naugahyde.

6. Train you doctors to listen to the patient even if the patient is lying down. I know this has never happened before, but please try. Doctors might listen to a patient who is sitting up in the bed with straight back and with no aid from tilting bed, nor anyone holding him up. Doctors never, ever listen to a patient lying down. They do go through the routine as if listening, but this is just a stance. They’ll never really listen, ever!
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Re: The new Bangkok Hospital in Hua Hin

Post by poosmate » Tue Sep 28, 2010 6:25 pm

all wheel-chairs and toilet seats can accommodate a beefy farang of 350 lb and 6’8”.
And maybe some small stairs for the midget should the rest of the circus need treatment. :wink:
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Re: The new Bangkok Hospital in Hua Hin

Post by Farang » Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:13 pm

poosmate wrote: And maybe some small stairs for the midget should the rest of the circus need treatment. :wink:
Thank you for your unvaluable input. Sorry I completely forgot your end of the scale.
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Post by playboy » Wed Sep 29, 2010 12:58 pm

After read all the demands from this forum, now I come to understand why the costs of healthcares in western countries are so expensive because they need larger(morrrrre)portion of medications and larger facilities to accommodate their size. And in Thailand is less expensive because they need less portion of medication and smaller size of facilities. What 's a logic.

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Re: The new Bangkok Hospital in Hua Hin

Post by Dr Mike » Wed Sep 29, 2010 1:33 pm

I cannot agreewith the last poster. The size and expense of hospitals has increased enormously since Iwas a house doctor in the UK in the 1960s.But then, about a quarter of all heart attack patients died in the first 48 hours, patients with a stroke either died or were severly disabled, patients with arthritis of the hip walked with a cane and a bad limp. Death rates from cancer were much higher.
Infertile women couldraely be helped. Diabetics died early etc

It's sad but keeping people alive does require space and money.
And asian patients take FAR more medication than do westerners. Ex-pats with Thai wives can testify to this.

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