Brit pensioners start murder fund in Thailand

[JimmyGreaves]

http://www.andrew-drummond.com/2011/01/ ... -thailand/

[STEVE G]

Good for them!
The less that people get away with this sort of thing, the less it will happen.

[Spitfire]

Thieving deceitful B-hatches, preying on the elderly is a specifically bad crime. Good on the both of them to try to do something and make a stand.

So very sad that some westerners are such easy targets and unused to such callousness from such selfish women.

May as many of them as possible, along with their cohorts, rot in prison.

[pharvey]

Good on them

But, not wanting to take anything away from their stand........ is it really going to make a difference in a corrupt system?

[richard]

Good on them

But, not wanting to take anything away from their stand........ is it really going to make a difference in a corrupt system?

NO

IMO, but maybe somewhat biased, my golden rules at the age of 65 and having been in Thailand now for 10 years are as follows:

NEVER reveal how much you are worth either by bragging, overspending or leaving info around

NEVER, NEVER, NEVER underestimate the power of the family

NEVER enable them (wife or Family) to lose face. Equivalent to suicide IMO

NEVER think western logic will prevail. No fuck*** chance and NEVER think you will understand Thai logic

I consider myself lucky. I've survived both in HH and the wilds of Isaan (so far) without being milked (nothing left to milk anyway ) but I have friends and acquaintances who have not heeded the above and gone to the wall and the grave

It's bizarre really that the LOS appears on the one hand to be paradise and yet on the other-hand is a 'watch your back' scenario

Think it exists all over the globe but so easy here to think in terms of LOS. Not many of us, if any, can tell the difference between a smile with the mouth and a smile with the eyes, happy families and greedy families. I do know some Thai women who now shun their family and villages because of the 'bleed farang' syndrome. BUT you never know

I for one, watch my back and as a very good friend (lived here 24 years) told me years ago 'things are never always what they seem' TIT

[margaretcarnes]

Good advice Richard. I wish Mr A and Mr B well but at the same time worry for them. Perhaps they should check their health insurance!

[hhfarang]

If you do business with girls of the night or hang out in bars where they are active in most cities around the world you are putting yourself in danger, especially if you are perceived to be wealthy compared to the local standard and are of an older age. Why should it be any different here? I don't know the background of the "ladies" mentioned in the article so I don't know if this was the case with them, but:

When a much older western man marries or makes a full time girlfriend of a 20 to 25 year old bar girl who's been in the business since she was 18, he is just asking for trouble imo. You're on their turf and no matter how many more years of experience in life you have she is much more street wise here, so you are at an immediate disadvantage.

I know many good marriages (including my own) with Thai women that are up to 20 years younger than their counterpart, but the girls were normal Thai girls (not bar girls) and in most cases of the successful relationships I know, the Thai has gone to live in the husband's home country for some years, therefore learning to understand western ways of thinking to some extent. Otherwise, what would they have to talk about with nothing at all in common outside of the bedroom?

Don't get me wrong; I'm not saying all "bar girls" are bad. I'm just saying that if that is where you are fishing for a mate your chances are above 80% likely to end in disaster from what I've seen in years of traveling to and living in Thailand.

[Johan]

When you are old 60+ you can afford to take a bar girl and spend all your money with her. It's a nice service and she will be old when you will die.

She's 20, you are 60, then she stay with you 15 years before you die, she will lose the best 15 years of her life with an old men, it's an investment. At the end of the relationship she should have everything, a nice home worth a lot of money, one or two cars and some cash in the bank.

I you want a girl who don't milk you too much then go get a 60+ years old who sell some chicken or whatever, she will be happy to have a husband even if you only have 20 000 bahts a month for a living.

Be ready to lose all your money if you take a girl who is really younger than you, they expect much more from an old guy than from a young guy. I had a girlfriend, she was 23 and me too, she never asked for anything but she also had an old men 59 yrs old (i accepted as he was paying for everything), and she was milking him everyway, the last time i saw her she was planning to have a new car and a new home. She's not longer my girlfriend of course, her new boyfriend don't want to share but he's gona pay a lot.

[hhfarang]

But Johan, the thread is about losing your life, not just your money. Some of these girls get impatient waiting for the "rich" husband to pass on.

[Johan]

Yes that's right, they hate them, some girls may think they can wait the 15 years, others not. And some guys don't die easily too, so maybe he will live until 90, the girl will be very old 50+. She lost her life not only a few years.

Try to think like them to understand why this happen. And maybe the guy wasn't that nice with her.

It's at your risks to take a young girl, some of them may love you but 90% of them don't, they like money, security and everything they will have when you will pass away. It's also the same with young guys, girls like me for a few months then they are bored, it's always like this. So when the passion is low to keep the girl you need to feed her with gifts, a lot of gifts.

I understand why this happen and i also understand this could happen to me. Most of the girls we meet don't really like us, they don't love us, it's only a "win/win" situation. But again, some girls are different. One who loved me she left me for an old guy because he was giving money to her, she told me this : "I love you but i also need to think about my future, i can't live with only love". I believe her, at the time i was a little upset but now i understand. It's difficult to resist when a guy give you loads of money everyday. She was making more money than my business itself. The guy was the CEO of a huge company in Sweden with hundreds of employees.