tax at murphs

[littlebird]

If a breakfast is advertised at 99 baht, it should be 99 not 106
Well said

[margaretcarnes]

Hmmm - except that 106 on a menu doesn't look so appetising as 99.
This thread is really about concern over the cover charges. VAT is a different can of worms.
Personally - and from experience - I think an all inclusive price is much easier to administer. With the greatest respect to the staff involved - manually adding 7% to every bin is a recipe for disaster IMO. So is there a computerised cash register to do the job?
I honestly don't know, but let's assume there is. So for every 99 baht sale the punter will round up to 100. But for every 106 baht sale they will round up to 110. Just a thought....

[jimmy40]

Went Murfs yesterday, seen eddy asked about if there was a surcharge and he said there has not been one in place for months. I forgot to ask about the vat, but i did notice the computer was a little old and was in pounds sterling, so maybe thats why there is the extra at the bottom of the bill like the uk and Oz. But as i have said before 7% is the real vat, so wheather its added to the price or extra, you are still paying it, and lets face it my bin is always about 800 baht so say 54 baht goes to the goverment at the HUGE sum of $1.50 aud. Ill just pay it, even if the beer was dearer id still go as its nice and cool on these hot days lately

[Gus]

With regard to bar surcharges, Angel Eyes in Poolsuk Plaza charges a bit more for soft drinks when the Live Music is on, this is printed on the drinks menu.
I'm not sure about alcoholic prices, by the time I reach there I am too pissed to worry about it.

[margaretcarnes]

Went Murfs yesterday, seen eddy asked about if there was a surcharge and he said there has not been one in place for months. I forgot to ask about the vat, but i did notice the computer was a little old and was in pounds sterling, so maybe thats why there is the extra at the bottom of the bill like the uk and Oz. But as i have said before 7% is the real vat, so wheather its added to the price or extra, you are still paying it, and lets face it my bin is always about 800 baht so say 54 baht goes to the goverment at the HUGE sum of $1.50 aud. Ill just pay it, even if the beer was dearer id still go as its nice and cool on these hot days lately

Still some confusion then. Clearly there isn't a cover charge. And according to SJ's post on 28/2 Murf is quoted as saying there is no service charge. So far so good.
But on 1/3 SJ found an earlier statement from Murf - date not known - stating that since Dec 09 there has been a charge on drinks during show time.
So first we need to be clear what all these extras mean just to avoid confusion. A cover charge is made on the door for entry when a band or other special gig/event is on.
A service charge is an extra percentage added to the final bill to cover what it says - service - ie tips, plus maybe overheads like breakages.
A surcharge is extra added to unit price to cover extras on an ad hoc basis - as appears to be the case here.
Clearly it doesn't matter to most customers when the music is good, and as I've said earlier Murf is really breaking new ground as a farang providing this style of bar in HH, which is to be commended.
But if your observation of Stirling showing on the till is correct I really can't see how that can work. Nor can I understand how bins can be adjusted as necessary during 'show times' only!
Maybe Murf could put us straight please?

[Super Joe]

Still some confusion then. Clearly there isn't a cover charge. But on 1/3 SJ found an earlier statement from Murf - date not known - stating that since Dec 09 there has been a charge on drinks during show time. Nor can I understand how bins can be adjusted as necessary during 'show times' only!

Here's the thread Mags, but based on what Jimmy has said, it's out of date now, as things change: http://www.huahinafterdark.com/forum/vi ... ed#p159892

But it does say there is NO service charge, NO cover charge, but there was this small surcharge on drinks during band times, of 20B. Ie: if the band start playing at 9pm and you order drinks at 8:45pm and another at 9:15pm, one will be 70B, the latter will be 90B (70B+20B). But based on Jimmy's post above, this is not now applicable.

Popped in there the other night, and there are still loads of signs on the walls about 'credit crunch lunch' deals and what-have-you. They, like their competitors in that price/quality range, all seem to have made an effort to offer value to customers during the past couple of years of hard times.

The way I look at it these places have been loyal to us, so I'll be loyal to them

SJ

[dozer]

I have never been to this venue, but it does seem that the consensus here is that it is a good place and that the owner goes out of his way. So why quibble over a few Baht here and there, seems futile to me.

[E-Dork]

I have never been to this venue, but it does seem that the consensus here is that it is a good place and that the owner goes out of his way. So why quibble over a few Baht here and there, seems futile to me.

Well said that man.

At the end of the day we are aware of the extra % when we enter the place so we know, with a quick calculation, how much everything actually is, hence it's not really a 'hidden' charge and not a huge amount to part with to enjoy the comfort of the place.

[Big Boy]

At the end of the day we are aware of the extra % when we enter the place so we know, with a quick calculation, how much everything actually is, hence it's not really a 'hidden' charge and not a huge amount to part with to enjoy the comfort of the place.

So long as they didn't receive a basic Thai education

[E-Dork]

So long as they didn't receive a basic Thai education

[jimmy40]

S,J dozer, and e dork 100% spot on who cares about the couple of extra baht on your food and beer, all i can say is there is no cover charge or price rise at band time for sure, i was told by Eddy himself.

[Big Boy]

That must be a recent innovation - there was certainly a surcharge in November.

As I've said already, I was expecting it and knew before I went through the door - definitely not complaining.

[Spitfire]

Tax is fine imo gents and is everywhere you go of course, at least he has the decency to point it out. What is a 'piss-take' is the places that charge service (10% etc) in the bill and then you are expected to 'tip' the staff on top, It's either or, not both.

If a place charges me a mandatory service charge, then no tip. Why should I pay twice?

When I see that then I just think "Piss-taking c*nt*", no tip. Call me stingy, OK fine, but why should I pay twice?

[richard]

Call me stingy, OK fine, but why should I pay twice?

Stingy? No way. It's a matter of principle. Wherever you go you should be aware of what's it going to cost you up front. You then have a choice. Take it or leave it.

Pat Pong (BK) is guilty of this. Go to a bar for a drink and walk out having been hit by an entertainment allowance.

Murf should get on this thread and spell it out otherwise he is going to lose valuable customers who are hesitant about his place. We all need clarification.

Maybe he is doing so good business wise he doesn't care a sh1t. Stupid if he thinks that way. Too many bar owners think ' we don't need the resident expats, they are cheap charlies'. Expats can be the bread and butter of a bar in low season. The secret in running any business is good will. Lose that and you are sunk

[E-Dork]

Murf should get on this thread and spell it out otherwise he is going to lose valuable customers who are hesitant about his place. We all need clarification.

If you are worried about losing out on a few pennies in order to enjoy better surroundings then I sincerely doubt you would be classed as a 'valuable' customer.