May / June Jelly Situation!

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May / June Jelly Situation!

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Hey,

To all of those currently out in HH, I was wondering what the Jellyfish situation is like at the moment? I'm planning on coming out in the second half of June and looking forward to it very much. I gather that Jelly's are a pain all year round (and yes I know some of you don't agree with people going in the sea - but it will be nice to have at least one swim!).

Anyway, i've searched the forum and got a general idea, but any more information is welcomed!

Be nice to the noob :-) :guns:

See you in HH!

Michael
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Hi Michael
Jellyfish in Thailand come from around mid May to end of October. Make sure you wear appropriate clothing. Kite pants and a rashyrashy or a stinger suit should be enough to enjoy your swim.

From experience the jellyfish to avoid are:

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* White ones (only the really big ones, small ones are a different species and don't sting).

hey will leave a burn like mark on the skin, some hurt more than others. If stung, do not rub with hand, this will spread any tentacle around. Pour da water on area, to wash any jelly bits away. Then get a plant called morning glory and mix with vinegar. Hold this over area for around half an hour. Any Thai will know what to do if you say "mangopune"mangopuner jellyfish.

Officials on a popular resort island in southern Thailand have laid nets in the sea to prevent poisonous jellyfish from nearing the shore after two foreign tourists were fatally stung while swimming in waters off Koh Pha NganKohPha

NganPhaNgan beachside clinic after receiving massive stings to his legs while swimming off the island's beachsideRineach. Officials said he suffered terrible pain from the stings which left large weltRinrks on his legs.

"The long tentacles wrapped around his legs three or four times each. It would have been an excruciating death," an official said.

A day later, a Moroccan woman died from similar stings to her legs after being taken by speedboat to Ban Don Inter Hospital on the nearby island of Koh Samui.

The deaths on the island, which is known for hosting all-night rave parties, KoheSamuipted local authorities to warn tourists against swimming in the sea during the monsoon season, when the deadly jellyfish are frequently washed toward the beach by rough seas.

Hat Rin local administrator Prasob Tauychareon told us: "We have set up a sign board on the bRinh warning tourists toPrasobiTauychareonming where the jellyfish are rampant, and laid nets in the areas to prevent the lethal jellyfish from coming close to the beach." The victims were the first to die from jellyfish stings in several decades in Thailand, he said.

Australia's Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade issued a warning last week advising Australians to "exercise extreme care" about the safety of swimming in particular locations on the island.

"Due to the uncertainty about the species and toxicity of the jellyfish that caused the deaths, swimmers, snorkellers, and divers are advised to leave the water if jellyfish are spotted," DFAT sasnorkellersotice.

Thai police stationed on the island have since been handing out leaflets warning visitors against swimming, especially in the latter part of the day and early evening. But officials said many of the travellers were disregarding the warnings. "There is a general culture on the island that all is OK," one official said.

So make sure you protect yourself against these stingers by wearing a stinger suit or tight fitting clothes whenever you go for a swim.

Dangerous Jellyfish:

Box Jelly is found off the shores of NoChironexufleckeri PNG, Malaysia, Indonesia, the Philippines, Thailand and Vietnam. This marine animal has a boxy bell head the size of a basket ball and three metre tentacles that can kill a man in a couple of minutes, though there are recent reports of much smaller Box jellies that are just as deadly.
It has 3 million stinging cells every centimtre of its tentacles!
The Box jelly is responsible for at least one death a year arcentimtreralia and has killed 67 people since records began in 1883, though the total is misleading since many deaths attributed to heart attacks or drowning could have been caused by toxic jellies.
Problem shores are usually signposted, and this is one serious bubblepack to be avoided at all costs - the most poisonous creature in the world.
New Scibubblepackazine [Nov '03] revealed that Box jellies are not 'dim-witted ocean drifters' but 'fast, active predators that hunt and kill with incredible speed and brutality.'
The Box Jellyfish is mostly a problem from October - May.
Symptoms:
- severe pain
- headache, nausea, vomiting, diarrhoea
- skin swelling/wounds/redness
- difficulty breathing, swallowing and speech
- shivering, sweating
- irregular pulse/heart failure
Stings treatment:
-pour vinegar over tentacles. Urine does not work on the Box Jelly.
-lift off any tentacles with a stick or similar.
-use pressure-immobilisation on limbs if possible. i.e. quickly wrap a light bandage above and below the sting [if you can't get two fingers under the bandage, it's too tight].
- Immobilize/splint the stung area and keep it at heart level [gravity-neutral] if possible. Too high causes venom to travel to the heart, too low causes more swelling.
- Do not drink alcohol, or take any medicine or food.
-get medical treatment urgently or apply antivenom if available.
- headache, nausea, vomiting, diarrhoea
- skin swelling/wounds/reantivenom
ifficulty breathing, swallowing and speech
- shivering, sweating
- irregular pulse/heart failure
Too high causes venom to travel to the heart, too low causes more swelling.
- Do not drink alcohol, or take any medicine or food.
-get medical treatment urgently or apply antivenom if available.

Treatment needs to begin immediately!
* Summon emergency medical treatment and/or get the victim to a medical facility
* Wash the affected areas with salt water (not fresh water)
* Carefully remove any remaining tentacles. Do so with a mechanical device or gloved hand
* Flushing the skin with vinegar may relieve some of the pain

Observe the victim carefully and administer CPR if breathing stops.

Hope this helps

Regards

Robee :cheers:
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Post by MichaelD »

Wow, thats scared the hell out of me. :-P

Maybe i'll just avoid the sea alltogether? :roll:
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I would be very careful, three years ago I got stung swimming off Hua Hin beach in July.
The problem is the water is not that clear and even though I was swimming with goggles, I didn’t see the jelly fish until it was almost in my face. I got quite a bad sting on my upper arm.
It didn’t seem that serious but it took nearly a year to heal completely.
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MichaelD said:
Wow, thats scared the hell out of me.

Maybe i'll just avoid the sea alltogether?
It would be a shame to travel all of that way just to let a few jellyfish spoil your holiday. Pain is only a state of mind, and temporary at that. If you swim where the beach beds are, the guys running the beach always have the moning glory/vinegar ready at hand - a free service.

Even though the water isn't crystal clear, I've always managed to spot the beasts before they get me. Just stay alert.
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Is it okay to paddle? :P
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Post by MichaelD »

Hehehe :) Maybe i'll get more adventurous towards the second half of my trip :P Or maybe i'll just use the pool :)

After reading my post, I realised I hadn't actually asked something I intended do:

Once again with regard to the Jellyfish, can any regulars give any advice on the nearby beaches i hope to visit? Are some worse for jelly's than others? Are there any that seem to get very little? Any comments with regards to the beaches listed on the beaches page would be very welcomed indeed!

Also, to my understanding the jelly's seem to come out after / during rain, therefore would it be safe to presume that swimming earlier in the day (morning / early afternoon) would be alot more safe? Obviously the waters won't have warmed up as much by then - but i'm sure this cool be a refreshing suprise!

Thanks for all the comments - keep them coming! I can't wait for late june to come!!!
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Have you guys had some big storms or unusual tides over there in the past week or so? I ask as went to the beach this afternoon with the "clan" (first time in about 3 months) and....the entire area was awash with dead jellyfish. I've never seen this before over on this side. Nothing living and swimming/stinging...all dead. I'm now gazing at the heavens tonight looking for omens of things to come?! :shock: Pete
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Post by essbee »

1. If you go out in the garden you will be bitten by a snake

2. If you go for a swim you will be stung by a jelly fish and have 2 mins to review your life.

3. If you go out late at night on your motorbike you will be mugged

Maybe the best bet is to stay indoors !!!!!!!

Only Joking, I cant wait for my next visit.
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