Mr.Plum v Superjoe

[Super Joe]

there's no need for you to turn threads into personal disputes

I understand your discomfort. You aren't used to being on the receiving end. can you please explain why YOU have triggered one. I've given you plenty of signals to back off and you have refused to do so. To characterize this as just 'a bit of banter' is a bit like bombing Afghan wedding parties and calling it 'winning hearts and minds'.

I enjoy debating these topics and invariably argue the case for the contrary opinion. Not because I necessarily believe it. But for the fun of it. My delivery may be a bit too rich for your tastes but that is your problem not mine. If you are scared by my posts, get a teddy.

This is a discussion forum allowing different viewpoints to be expressed. The moderators have made that clear. They have already ruled several times that these topics are allowable. They have also made it clear that those with a different viewpoint are allowed to express them.

The current affairs section is just a small add-on and does not reflect the content or nature of this forum. Those that use it and intend on posting controversial material should expect to get a lively response.

two posters requested your pitiful Holocaust denial/Hitler apologist nonsense be stopped, as it was offensive as they had Jewish family members

If they really cared so much, they would raise the roof about the way the Holocaust has been turned into a 'Holocash' extortion racket

I used to have sympathy for the Jewish people due to the 'holocaust'....I have since become resentful

ONE topic which was just about the most difficult topic there is to approach. The 'Holocash'.. sorry.. 'Holocaust'. Since I mention it, allow me to tackle it, head on...

...and the Jews 'Declaration of War' on Germany. Even Jews charge that the Zionists collaborated with Hitler. Economic sanctions are an act of war. And no country can be expected to tolerate 600,000 potential insurgents within its midst. Hence the camps. It's a bit strong murdering them and I'm no fan of Hitler but I'm tired of constantly hearing about Jewish suffering.

THE JEWISH BIT
Everyone knows I do not mean ALL Jews.

Except I think the Israeli issue is just a symptom of a wider Jewish question.
What is it about this race of people that poverty, social discord, violence and crime seem to follow everything they do?
Israhell is a nation of cut-throats and thieves, filled with murderous East Russian Communist Jews who escaped Russia.
No 'holocaust studies' for these Christian victims of Jewish hate.
Any study of un-revisionist Jewish history will show they have caused problems for every nation that ever welcomed them.
The Jewish religion is responsible for causing the death of tens of millions of Christians.
Their religion via the Jewish-controlled media is demonizing Muslims.
They are busy right now trying to get Christian nations to destroy Muslim ones with their phoney 'War on Terror' and their anti-Muslim propaganda drives.
Their Rabbis are preaching hatred against all non-Jews instructing Jews that it is not a crime to kill a 'Goy'.
when you actually see what has happened in your life and can trace almost all of it to Jewish ideas and methods of control.
At one time or another Jews have been kicked out of every country in Europe. They seem to hate everyone.
Too many of them act as if their Rabbinical teachings, that ALL Non-Jews are sub-human and should be exterminated, is a mandate.
They steal our health with their domination of medicine and particularly Psychology.
They are not our friends but extremely dangerous threats to all Christian countries.
Holocaust movie conveyor belt does is highlight that the murderous Israelis are just the same as the murderous Nazis.

I am not being 'anti-semitic'

Poster #1 There is no use trying to discuss anything with such a bigoted, racist, homophobic, extremist view
Poster #2 I loath bigots, which you are and that is plain from your posts. A man who seems to hate the Jews. the anti semite you really are
Poster #3 Mr.P, I will leave you to your bigotry. Hitler could be quite convincing as well. But by now, we all know where you're coming from
Poster #4 exactly the same argument used by Hitler to justify their actions...it makes you look like a racist fool. Now we all have your measure
Poster #5 Every thread is forced into a one sided trawl of the bowels of the internet to back up your, bigoted and racist opinion
Poster #6 Another tapestry of lies. Joos, Nazies, blah blah, anything to get attention ... please respond and give my life some meaning
Poster #7 Mr. P, I have made my opposition clear on many threads. Its this kind of misrepresentation of the facts which makes you dangerous
Poster #8 Plum, why try and turn this into an anti Jewish thing when the OP is nothing of the sort?
Poster #9 born through your obvious hatred of the jews.
Poster #10 I'm sure that sentiment would have been a big hit in Nazi Germany...call it what you like, this thread stinks for what it is.

SJ

[BaaBaa.]

Has anybody got directions for "Same Place" Restaurant on Phetkasem?

[MrPlum]

Has anybody got directions for "Same Place" Restaurant on Phetkasem?

It's right next door to 'Broken Record', the music store.

[MrPlum]

Mr P - are you simply on a mission to save the world; starting with expats in Hua Hin?

It's a good question but I have to be careful how I answer because I'm being constantly monitored and anything I say now, can and will be held as evidence and used against me.

Yes, I try and raise awareness amongst those who are interested but I am also seeking to bounce these ideas around.

Since most of my posts are in Current Affairs, you can assume that I enjoy this area. Every story comes with intrigue, is sensational, involves murder, mayhem, fraud and skullduggery. There is an element of 'whodunit'. All these things appeal to my analytical nature.

Contrast this with 'one-liners', asking where to buy bicycle clips on Petchkasem and you don't really need to ask why I spend my virtual time there. I don't see my interest as being negative. Except for the hornet's nest it stirs up, which would make you think I'm the one committing the crimes.

MrP: "SJ. Quick! Someone is robbing the bank!"

SJ: "No they are not. Stop spreading 'disinfo'"

MrP: 'But I can see the smoke and there's a hole in the bank wall!"

SJ: "Stop making stuff up. You've been listening to Alex Jones again."

MrP: "Yes. yes. I've already said I don't trust him. Hurry. They are loading the swag into the trunk, even as we speak!"

SJ: "Look everyone. Look what he said 16 months ago".

MrP: "Bugger it. Now they are driving off. I can see them laughing."

SJ: "And he said this 8 months ago".

MrP: "I know I know but they have still made off with the cash and now they are mugging someone else."

SJ: "And by the way, he said this and this only last week'.

MrP: "Damn. It's a little old lady, they've snatched her handbag and knocked her into the street."

SJ: "It's just a theory. I can't see anything."

MrP: "That's because you keep looking at ME and not THEM!"

SJ: "Of course I am. You have to be 'exposed'!"

MrP:

My positions are invariably contrarian, because I come from a different starting point from others. I run media reports, etc.. through the prism of 'Who stands to gain?' 'What are they trying to sell me'? and 'What are they nottelling me?' I invariably find lies. I don't shy away from them just because they are troubling. 'Matrix-like' I have made my choice between 'the blissful ignorance of illusion (blue) and embracing the sometimes painful truth of reality (red).'

I'm not going to argue about what is 'truth' and what are 'lies'. It's difficult to prove one way or the other and there are a thousand opinions out there. Despite that risk, if you wish to be 'woken up', and don't wish to be eaten by the sharks, then start doing your own investigating.



An army of Media, PR and Marketing depts spend night and day thinking of ways in which we can be exploited and made to feel good about it. That I shine a critical light on their 'spin' shouldn't really upset anyone. I am certainly grateful to others who alert me to the activities of local crooked property developers. Now take that same concern for others out into the wider stage and that's where you will find me.

There are some who read the newspaper every day, from cover to cover. They then sit in front of the TV and absorb the News. Since this news is negative and sensational, you could argue that they should all be depressed and angry. Are they? No. So, why do you think I am? I rarely read newspapers, nor do I watch TV News, since, as you rightly point out, one can have too much of it.

I do dip a toe in the more controversial waters and have been pounced on. The 'bashers', still nursing past grievances, are ever watchful for opportunities.

But if you look at the exchanges. Much of the time, I'm really just arguing for the right to post.

I could sit around waiting for SJ to create his own topics and provide sources, and I could tear his posts to shreds for sport. It isn't difficult. You just keep probing until you find a weakness, then you go for the jugular and watch the poor victim squawk. I've considered doing it in other forums where he posts.

But you know what? It's so petty, I can't understand why anyone would wish to do it.

[BaaBaa.]

Not interested in this then MrP???

[MrPlum]

Not interested in this then MrP???

Iron out the wrinkles and it will be fine.

[Super Joe]

I could sit around waiting for SJ to create his own topics...

...but you have no interest in threads that may benefit other boards members, so you create half a dozen Jewish conspiracy-related topics a day in order to feed your self-admitted 'trolling' appetite...

Settle down boys. I posted it because it had some entertainment value but mainly because it appeared in the British Medical Journal. I didn't make any comment because I wanted to see how you would react to this 'disinfo'. You both picked up the doggie chew and wagged your tails beautifully.

Now I begin to understand you. You trawl the internet tirelessly in search of articles to fuel your hatred of society. I have gotten involved in debates with a joker who does not even agree with what he writes. Now i know that you cut and past rubbish and argue in its favour just for sport.

Tails still wagging furiously I see. If you choose to respond again with 'like minded crackpots' or similar, you will be ignored. You don't HAVE to counter my every 'heresy'. I can understand a little bit of disagreement but the extent you go at it is beyond me. No-one else is as bothered by me.

Fishing for takers, then when your 'catch' bites back you threaten to ignore them because are soooo obesessed with you. 'No-one else is a bothered' ... seems you say that to all the girls. I feel used

SJ

[MrPlum]

Ah. The 'You made me do it' defence. Another indication the junkie cannot do without his fix.

Here he is injecting another dose of MrP into his arteries... he sucks it in deeply... "theeere.... ", "mmmmm....." "I feel soooo much better. "

[Super Joe]

As my last post was about a.n.other poster, you'll have to clarify if that is me or him, I'm keeping my fingers crossed as I do like the hair

In keeping with your latest dark theme (everything's doom and gloom with you ain't it ), and safe in the knowledge that our avid readers will no doubt be Friggin in the Riggin, I'm strangely reminded of Nancy and Sid, 'H', and the music I was first into while you were off buttering-up crumpets in the Navy catering corps, while in training for your 'proudest ever moment'

Furthermore, the Pretty Vacant nature of your last post in terms of debating the issue, reminds me greatly of our recent conspiracy debates. So I thought it would be interesting to highlight how you drag debates down to a personal level, whereas I Never Mind Your B---cks and retain my composure to both participate in the banter, and address the issue at hand. So while I address the issue of your self-admitted trolling and inciting of posters into disagreements, we see you hopelessly lost talking about drug addicts

The reason I've chosen to do this in your selected theme with one hand tied behind my back, is NOT to show how utterly lost you become when links and copy/pastes from wacky websites are removed from your arse*al, but to demonstrate how you turn into a charicature of your idol Alex Jones, in full-stress mode when he fails to make inroads with his radio-show guests and reverts to a 'screaching banshee'...
You actually bring us 'tales' from the same 'contributors' to this man's websites

Ah. The 'You made me do it' defence.

Ah. The 'You all fell for my trolling, so it's all your own faults' defence.
So no denying you partake in secret deep-sea fishing expeditions, finally a concession. I feel we're making progress towards revealing what regulars in current affairs are already aware of... that this poor little white-tailed-deer sometimes dresses-up(emphasis because...you just come across that way) in wolf's clothing. So Who Killed Bambi starts to take a distinct turn towards 'Who shot SJR'. And wise choice to fess up to it this time of day, don't want to upset your loyal fans caller, baabaa, KD, lindos et al back home and cause too much... Anarchy in the UK, do we now.

Mr P - are you simply on a mission to save the world

Yes, I try and raise awareness

So, because you dislike the mainstream media's message so much, you are attempting to write your own headlines, and you appear to be going for broke with 'God Save the Queen'. How very noble. But it now appears you have soooo many HHAD foes that you need to slay, before you reach your crusading goal of colonising current affairs. You see I thought it was all about me, but from my last post we see you talk of 'puppies' in the plural. Who many are there out there? why just single out me? you're obsessed with m....only kidding



So once upton a time there was SJ, then A.N.Other in my previous post, and now I've unearthed one more...

Having created a new topic, I set my watch and am rarely disappointed. I can sense their tails wagging furiously. Ever vigilant, our Pavlovian puppies scan the new messages for signs of MrP. A whole clutch of them to greet me this morning. Morning Lads.

As i have said before there is no point in trying to discuss or debate anything with you because all you are interested in is preaching your dogma. I also believe you are actually a troll. You constantly propagandize and ignore debate but mostly you just troll (you even boasted about doing it on another thread).

How many puppies have you caught in your trolling-trawler net MrP??... tell me or I'll, I'll, I'll 'ignore' you for 2 minutes flat like you do others. There's another 5no. actually. But, but you said I was the only one, the 'chosen' one, but you have others... boo hoo, boo hoo hoo

SJ

[MrPlum]

[MrPlum]

Never thought I'd complain about not having work to do, but when it happened it was helluva boring....

It is obvious you are bored. There is nothing wrong with using the internet for entertainment. That isn't the issue. It is your relentless fixation on ME, that is in question. You have ticked that box over and over and over and over and over. How much more 'pleasure' can you wring out of this? It's bizarre. TRY and let me go. You can do it.

I enjoy the banter/wind-up's and MrP is as good an opponent as you're likely to come accross...

The banter I accept up to a point from anyone but you have gone beyond it. Your tactics are completely predictable and you are deluding yourself that others are actually enjoying this.

It's like a clapped-out bar girl having sex. While you are grunting away, thinking you're the best lover since Valentino, she's counting flies on the ceiling and wondering when her ordeal is going to end. And when you stop and look into her eyes to see if she is really enjoying it, she dutifully smiles and says... 'You velly good.', when what she really wants to say is 'get your disgusting fat beer-gut off me.'

I could write your posts myself. You are gorging on 'plum' pudding and instead of being sick with stomach ache and crying off it for a few weeks, you are demanding double and triple helpings. It's staggering.

Despite your flattery, I am not your 'opponent' by choice. YOU made me into one, to satisfy your need for a 'wind-up'. Just as you have selected previous victims. Deliberately 'winding up' other members is against forum rules. The only reason I continue to try and get through to you, is because I have this faint hope that you might see sense. That, of course, is MY delusion.

I respect YOUR writing skills, (although your right brain needs a little more development) but I am not obsessed with you. I'm stuck with you because you've slapped a hairy lip-lock on me and won't let go.

No-one can continue in the way you are doing and be sane.

But I genuinely don't believe anyone gets upset/angry

Only because I couch my frustration in diplomatic terms. Allow me to put it in 'footie' language. PISS OFF.

During those periods my loved-one has been virtually begging me to come back on, trying to incite me to reply to his sweet-mutterings.

Please tell me you don't believe this. Just because I drop your name to test if you have truly buggered off, doesn't mean you should interpret it as a forsaken lover wracked by loss. While you were puffing out your chest in front of your webcam... "Hey. I'm back, lads! Did ya miss me?" I was thinking "there goes the forum".

For someone who sees 'support' from every direction, you have a remarkable ability for not seeing dissent.

And to be serious at least a dozen other posters have 'outed' him

Meaningless. I expect resistance, since almost every post is contrarian. I don't post on this forum to 'impress me mates'. Nor do I set out to make friends or create enemies. I stand alone and post to provoke thinking, within my limited ability and education. A distinction that clearly passes you by.

it's more about the good natured, high-quality debate/banter he delivers.

Thank you but there is nothing 'good natured' in turning yourself into an internet stalker.

Have we covered this to the 'nth' degree yet?

[poosmate]

Imo plums fixation on trying to convince the whole forum to agree with his crackpot theories along with his bigoted and racist obsessions deserves his posts being dissected and ridiculed.
I wish I had more time to trawl the trash can of the internet to disprove plums misinformation. I applaud and enjoy SJ and others who are posting to demonstrate to plum that the HHAD forum doesn't just have one opinion.
Plum is constantly starting controversial threads but does not like it when he is proven wrong. This along with many other traits demonstrates to me a sad character hiding personal issues who seeks to blame the world for his own problems.
Plum stop acting like the sun only shines from your arse and accept others are entitled to post in any way they wish, as you do. if you get so upset by their posts why not piss off and join a forum more suited to your rants and crackpot claims.
Oh and take both of you with you

[sargeant]

Mr P wrote

I stand alone and post to provoke thinking, within my limited ability and education.

So let me get this straight you put yourself as the devils advocate which is fine by me, however where it ceases to be fine is when you get upset and down right bad maqnnered by ignoring and then boasting about ignoring people who try to devils advocate your posts and generate some thinking within To use your own words your limited ability and education.

Thinking you are alone in having the ability to be controversial and the devils advocate becomes simple hypocricy if you fail to understand all other members on the board are as entitled to play the same game as you

it becomes pathetically and pointlessly childish to start a debate and then ignore people that join it

Oh and you do not stand alone either there are plenty of others who stimulate thought

[MrPlum]

Have you been working up your aggression, poosmate? All that hot anger bursting out of you. Try to calm yourself. It's only words on a screen.

Listen to your Master...

I enjoy the banter/wind-up's.

See? He's enjoying it. No need to get yourself all hot and bothered.

Such abiding loyalty is sweet but it's only a game.

Mr P wrote

I stand alone and post to provoke thinking, within my limited ability and education.

So let me get this straight you put yourself as the devils advocate which is fine by me, however where it ceases to be fine is when you get upset and down right bad maqnnered by ignoring and then boasting about ignoring people who try to devils advocate your posts and generate some thinking within To use your own words your limited ability and education.

I do not 'boast'. This is your language and it is as false now as it was before. I inform.

I'm glad you accept the principle that I can post my views.

Thinking you are alone in having the ability to be controversial and the devils advocate becomes simple hypocricy if you fail to understand all other members on the board are as entitled to play the same game as you

Indeed. They can create whatever topics they wish and they are fully within their rights to challenge my 'heresy' or spread their own. The only real issue I have is those members who aren't able to cope with 'debate' and completely take leave of their senses. Insults, abuse, hatred, stalker-like behaviour. At times the forum has resembled a lunatic asylum. Thankfully, this seems to have settled down, simply because as soon as I see the signs, such as with poor old poosmate, I place them on 'ignore'.

Don't blame me for being forced to do this. Blame those who can't cope with me. Either because they are inarticulate, ignorant or mentally unstable.

it becomes pathetically and pointlessly childish to start a debate and then ignore people that join it

I realize you have never gotten over me ignoring you. Your howl of outrage echoed around the local hills. I still remember it. It does not surprise me that you raise this point.

The problem for you, which you have never really addressed, is that your posts are not easy to read. You had a period of blatant aggression, where the last thing I wanted to do was answer you, and if you hadn't noticed, I have my hands full most of the time, with just one particular member, who is also adept at getting attention. I do not have the desire, or the energy, to respond to every poster. Especially those whose idea of debate is to blind me with colourful fonts in a forest of dancing icons.

Oh and you do not stand alone either there are plenty of others who stimulate thought

[/quote]I never said there wasn't. But I've been asked what makes me tick and I'm answering. They can answer for themselves.

I stand alone in as much as I do not seek support. I don't suckle a little band of 'wounded' supporters, banding together for comfort. They aren't an asset, since they have already shown they cannot cope with me. They can stay in the 'doghouse', until they show they can debate without resorting to angry abuse.

Anyone else who is itching to have a go at me, go away. My being open is not an invitation to others. If you can't cope with my views, don't read them. I don't write for you. I'm not interested in you. If you still go ahead and read them, then you are foolish. I do not attack unless first attacked. Your 'wounds' are self-inflicted. Whatever gave you the idea you can attack me without consequences?

Stop acting like children.

There are posters I don't like and I ignore them. Some views I don't agree with yet I accept the other's right to hold them. It's easy. Yet, perhaps because I create so many topics, I am treated differently.

Should I consider Sandman 'dangerous' because he would love to destroy religion? Am I offended by his apparent hatred of those who find comfort in religion? Isn't he insulting millions around the world who hold passionate beliefs in God? Of course he is. Can anyone safely state they love God or Jesus, on this forum? No. They would be shown no mercy. So where is the outrage? Why isn't he being hounded for being 'anti-religion'?

If I believe the Cancer Industry is a monopolistic, evil, profit-making, murderous machine, designed to kill and maim, while picking your pocket. Is that any worse than Sandman saying all religions are 'monopolistic, evil, profit-making, murderous machines. Designed to deceive, kill and maim, while picking your pocket'?

You may be outraged by my view. I understand that. Just as I was outraged by Sandman's. However, I am fought 'tooth and nail', while Sandman is allowed to get on with it. Just as I let Jockey get on with it, even though I didn't share all of his opinions.

This fuss about me has only come about because I refuse to be shut down by certain members, who's opinions I don't care for and who are unable to cope with their cosy assumptions being challenged.

There are members who share my views on many issues. I could produce MY top 10. Some tell me via pm so they don't draw fire on the forum. But what a pathetic thing to do. It reminds of school. Who is the most popular kid in the class? This is not a popularity contest. If it was I would write differently.

If topics genuinely aren't of interest, they disappear within a week or two and I will get the message loud and clear that no-one (not just my detractors) is interested. That's how it is supposed to work. But no. I am a magnet for the unbalanced, the angry and the mischievous, who will all convince themselves it is me, when they need only look in the mirror.

The emotional responses of some people are curious...

Newsflash!: '1 Million brown-skinned peasants were killed today by the latest whizz-bang 'Walrus, Warthog, Liberator, Defender' cannon, spewing 100,000 round a second!' Cannon Corp stocks are up 1 3/4 points!

Reaction? Yawn.

Newsflash!: MrPlum just posted 'Some herbs are as good as some medicines, if not better".

Reaction?: "Quack!", You're dangerous!", "You aren't qualified!" "Snarrrrllll...!!"

My reaction?

["Ere! Who are yew flippin' callin' unbalanced?!!"]

[Super Joe]

Not really much for me to add much here, everything I've been saying about MrP's constant provoking of those with different opinions is being substantiated before our very eyes, as our innocent 'victim' gets personal with other posters, but I will add something

I applaud and enjoy SJ and others who are posting to demonstrate to plum that the HHAD forum doesn't just have one opinion. Plum stop acting like the sun only shines from your arse and accept others are entitled to post in any way they wish, as you do.

Thanks, and I agree

Despite your flattery, I am not your 'opponent' by choice. I respect YOUR writing skills but I am not obsessed with you. Just because I drop your name to test if you have truly buggered off, doesn't mean you should interpret it as a forsaken lover wracked by loss.

Well let's put this to the test shall we MrP, you've already been given several examples of your attempts to provoke posters. You attempted to excuse that away as... 'their fault for taking your bait'. So when I knew you were re-igniting your global protests on this thread I thought I would stop responding to your posts in your current area of concern, the Libya thread, and ignore you for a few days, and what happened.... you lasted just 2 days before diving in to one of my posts addressed to Orange, like a pitbull after a juicy bone.
Your words condemn you ...

We have all been led to believe that the military and air forces can make pinpoint strikes on strategic targets but the only evidence we have ever been given of this was some dramatic footage during the Iraq invasion

No-one has even remotely attempted to propose there have been no civilians killed as a result of the coalition strikes, it would be bizarre to suggest such a thing.

Quite, quite, bizarre...
"...there is no confirmed evidence of any casualties at all, civilian casualties, caused by the coalition strikes on the Gaddafi regime,"
Thankfully no-one has even remotely attempted to.. errr.... propose...
"No civilian casualties in Libya airstrikes yet", Defence Minister Stephen Smith says
The very idea...
'The US chief of staff for the mission in Libya has insisted there have been no reports of civilian casualties caused by allied action.'

So there it is, you've exposed yourself. After just 48 hours of me ignoring you, you just couldn't hold back any longer, and this while you're on this thread bemoaning how I won't leave your posts alone. And look at your sarcy tone, is this not that 'mocking' you claim offends you sooooo much



Or take this very thread, I had not replied to you on this one for 3 weeks when you announced...

I will answer some of your other points on the MrPlum v Superjoe thread. Masochists are free to enjoy.

It's been the same story for ages, previous times when I've decided to dip out of threads, you can't bear to see me go ....

I won't be taking part in this guff anymore.

As to your leaving, you have done this before, only to come right back again since the topic is too juicy for you to resist. I'll set my watch and await your return.

And to be serious at least a dozen other posters have 'outed' him

Meaningless. I expect resistance, since almost every post is contrarian. I stand alone and post to provoke thinking, within my limited ability and education.

And once again you attempt to 'deceive' your fellow posters, it's a good job I'm here isn't it The 'outed' point was specifically in relation to your bigotry and nasty anti-semitic rhetoric, and I specifically made reference to the 10no. posters comments about this. Go back to my reply to Dtaai-Maai and see for yourself. Your attemots to try and distort the facts speaks volumes.

I stand alone and post to provoke thinking, within my limited ability and education. A distinction that clearly passes you by.

You stand alone in posting repetitive attacks on the Jewish race. I challenge your bigotry, while also contributing to most other sections of the board, offering info/help to fellow posters where I can, on account of having the advantage of living here. A distinction that clearly passes you by

You live here too, you are also in a position to contribute to the forum, help your fellow posters, but I only see you offering advice on questionable alternative medicine. You only take from the forum, and don't care if you cause offence in the meanwhile, and when someone raises the issue of the selfish nature of your contribution, you stoop to demeaning the value the forum provides for people with such things as ... Contrast this with 'one-liners' asking where to buy bicycle clips on Petchkasem and you don't really need to ask why I spend my virtual time there." and "If the forum wishes to end speculation then shut the forum to opinion and make dry announcements as to where to find bicycle clips."

I don't see that I contribute to the forum by being a sponsor, because for alarms and rentals I take more than I give, and as such I have never once so much as hinted at any kind of favouritism from admin. You on the other hand continue to offend posters that have asked you to stop offending Jewish family members with your holocaust denials, and continue to offend however many American board members with your incessant mocking of their 'dumbed-down' intelligence levels. Yet you keep wailing to admin for 'help'.

You can provoke as much as you want as far as I'm concerned, but when you get stick in return learn to take it without this incessant whining

SJ