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Jimbob wrote:Page 14/15: to finish up the famous locos: besides Gadaffi
no. 1 is usually called a 'Mikado' or by US trainspotters a 4-6-0.
No.2 is the 'Howart Express' but really GWR 5972 being a 4-8-2
No. 3 was identified by Nereus is a 'Mallard'.
Erm, engine number 551 (Light Mikado) is listed as: 2-8-2

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Jimbob wrote:Page 14/15: to finish up the famous locos: besides Gadaffi
no. 1 is usually called a 'Mikado' or by US trainspotters a 4-6-0.
No.2 is the 'Howart Express' but really GWR 5972 being a 4-8-2
No. 3 was identified by Nereus is a 'Mallard'.
No. 2 is 4-6-0

But very interesting with its Harry Potter conection!

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What is this called? What year was it invented originally?
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Is it an Armillary Globe or Sphere? If so, there appears to be some arguments as to whether the Greeks or Chinese invented it, but I'd go for the Chinese around 300-200 BC (they actually invented rather than copied then :roll: ).
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Armillary Sphere

As said above the history is complex, but the type in the picture was the type built by Tycho Brahe (1546 - 1601).

whilst the Chinese were building them supposedly in 400BC the ones we use (like in the photo) would follow the Hellenic model, so can be traced back to 200BC.

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pharvey wrote:Is it an Armillary Globe or Sphere? If so, there appears to be some arguments as to whether the Greeks or Chinese invented it, but I'd go for the Chinese around 300-200 BC (they actually invented rather than copied then :roll: ).
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Correct in Armillary Sphere ...I have owned very similar to this one, do not have it now. Mine was also made of wood (they come in other materials). The one I owned was late 18th Century, early 19th. The one in the photo is similar by Chez Delamarche, French, Paris, late 18th–early 19th century
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Greeks or Chinese invented it? I am not sure either. I found this info

Early History of the Armillary Sphere
Some sources credit Greek philosopher Anaximander of Miletus (611-547 B. C.) with inventing the armillary sphere, others credit Greek astronomer Hipparchus (190 - 120 BC), and some credit the Chinese.
Armillary spheres first appeared in China during the Han Dynasty (206 B.C.-220 A.D.). One early Chinese armillary sphere can be traced to Zhang Heng, an astronomer in the Eastern Han Dynasty (25 A.D.-220 A.D.).

The exact origin of armillary spheres cannot be confirmed. However, during the Middle Ages armillary spheres became widespread and increased in sophistication.

The earliest surviving globes were produced in Germany, some were made by German map-maker Martin Behaim of Nuremberg in 1492.
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sandman67 wrote:Armillary Sphere

As said above the history is complex, but the type in the picture was the type built by Tycho Brahe (1546 - 1601).

whilst the Chinese were building them supposedly in 400BC the ones we use (like in the photo) would follow the Hellenic model, so can be traced back to 200BC.

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:D Correct well done! Pharvey just beat you to the post though :shock:
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dtaai-maai wrote:A quickie for fun.

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a nice little history 3X3 challenge now
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1) Name the three weapons in the pictures above by their proper names
2) Where is each weapon from?
3) One of them is the odd one out - which one and why

Bonus ball....which famous historical figure links the other two?

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dtaai-maai wrote:
dtaai-maai wrote:A quickie for fun.

JC was 43 when R sailed o’er the sea.
She liked my style and stayed a while,
Digging deep inside of me.
She couldn’t take me all, and so she built a wall
To stop the Boys in Blue from coming down to spoil it all.


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Initial view on the 3 x 3 challenge, #2 is a Kukri or Khukri, a Nepalese knife, best known with the Gurkhas.
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I say the same for no 2 Gurkha knife
No 3 Is it khopesh sword, Egyptian?

Still thinking about number 1...it seems to have an animals head on the hilt.

Is the gurkha the odd one out as the other 2 are sword and this is a knife?
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No.3: An Egyptian bronze khepesh sword

Originally a throwing weapon of sickle-sword shape
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No. 1, a Falcata, a type of sword. From pre-Roman Iberian Peninsula.

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Yes agrree with Falcata as Nereus has said.

So the odd one out it Falcata because it comes from the Iberian Peninsula? :idea:
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