History Challenge & Journal

[sandman67]

This one seems to have stalled so back with another 3X3 challenge

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1) Name all three industrial constructions
2) Why is each one historically important
3) Which one is the odd one out and why? Two possible answers here....bonus points for getting both.

[pharvey]

Number 3 is the Menai Straits Suspension Bridge designed/engineered by Thomas Telford........

Will have a think about/search the other 2!!

[dtaai-maai]

Let me answer the easy one before the engineers get stuck in.
No. 1 is the Iron Bridge at Ironbridge, famous for being the first... erm... (cast) iron... erm... bridge - Symbol of the Industrial Revolution.

OK... this is the first iron arch bridge, Menai Straits is the first iron suspension bridge.

[dtaai-maai]

Is no. 2 part of the Pontcysyllte Aqueduct?

Edit, yes, I think so. Telford (who also designed the Menai Straits Bridge) used a new method of construction consisting of troughs made from cast iron plates and fixed in masonry.

[pharvey]

Number 2 is surely an aqueduct - number 1 does not seem to have the ''depth'' to be. Therefore, not even knowing the names or whereabouts of 1 or 2, I'll dive in with number 2 being the odd one out as it's not a bridge but rather an aqueduct.......

[Edit] Damn DM, you beat me to it.

[pharvey]

No. 1 is the Iron Bridge at Ironbridge, famous for being the first... erm... (cast) iron... erm... bridge - Symbol of the Industrial Revolution.

DOH!!

[dtaai-maai]

Between us I think we've covered everything, pharvey!

2nd odd one out, Iron Bridge, not designed by Telford.

[pharvey]

Between us I think we've covered everything, pharvey!

2nd odd one out, Iron Bridge, not designed by Telford.

Job Done!!

[Bamboo Grove]

Not many answers to my question, not that I really expected anything else. So far both migrant and Steve G have been correct. A little help now, here are the lyrics with the places in bold

Täss on lokari nyt lännen risukosta
olen kulkenu vaikka missä
olen käynynnä Piutissa Luisissa
Ratulaatissa Miiamissa
olen kulkenut merta ja mantereita
ja Alaskan tuntureita
ja ne kaikkialla hulivilityttöset muistaa
lännen lokareita

ja lokari on lokari ja hellunkin ottaa
vaikka toisen emännästä
ja vesi ei tuu silimään
vaekka ne taukoo iisi-plikat näkymästä
sillä Puittis on ruusu ja Luisissa on tähti
ja Alaskassa pulumusia
ja kaikki kutsuu
“Ootko sä nähnynnä lännen kulkuria?”

misson meksikon Lempi ja Honolulun Impi
ja Filippiinin keltanen Riikka
siellä lokari on ollu heitin keskellänsä
mutta onko ollu Iiskin Iikka
mis on kulkurin kulta, sydän iskeepi tulta
niin kaunis on heillä jo tukka
sä kun laulun kuulet, niin linnuksi luulet,
taasen rakastuupi lännen Jukka

on Friskossa käyty ja Orekoni nähty
miss on kesä sekä lumiset vuoret
Takotass on puitu, Pampiitsillä uitu
ja hellutettu vanahat ja nuoret
mutta kun punapuun kantoon torppansa laettaa
niin sillon se ilon päevä koettaa
vaekka mualiaman myrskyt meitä tuuvittaa
niin vapaus se varmasti voettaa

vaekka mualiaman myrskyt meitä tuuvittaa
niin vapaus se varmasti voettaa

Those with both bold and italics aren't actually places he had visited but where some of the ladies he met had come from i.e. Mexico, Honolulu and Philippines. The red wood part comes from where I have underlined the text. It says: "When you build your hut on the red wood stump that's when your happy days have arrived."

[Siani]

This one seems to have stalled so back with another 3X3 challenge

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1) Name all three industrial constructions
2) Why is each one historically important
3) Which one is the odd one out and why? Two possible answers here....bonus points for getting both.

Alexandre Gustave Eiffel anything to do with the first two?

[sandman67]

Well played Team HHAD

1 is Ironbridge - built by Abraham Derby III, grandson of Abraham Derby the "Father of the Industrial Revolution", it is the first metal bridge. It is also a landmark as it was built in the time before rivets, and so uses masonry and woodwork type joints - pegs, pins and sockets.

Abraham Derby I was the man who birthed the Industrial Revolution by discovering the way to use coke in iron smelting rather than charcoal, freeing up smelting and iron production, and also giving rise to the importance of the Welsh coalfields. His son and grandson went on to revolutionise iron smelting and turn it into a mass industry, then discovering new ways to use the higher quality iron produced in new construction techniques such as Ironbridge.

The Derby family were the men who put the Black in the Black Country.

2 - not quite right but right in spirit. It is the Tern Aqueduct built by Thomas Telford, again using principles borrowed from woodworking and masonry, and employed a revolutionary composite caulking. It was the first navigable metal aqueduct, and served as the prototype test bed for his spectacular Pontcysyllte Aqueduct. Telford borrowed his iron construction jointing techniques from Derby and the Ironbridge.

3 of course is the Menai Bridge, recognised as the first modern metal chain link suspension bridge....built by Thomas Telford at the hieght of his career. The Menai Bridge aso served to complete Telford's integrated industrial transport system linking Hollyhead in Wales and thus Ireland directly to the centres of heavy industry in the Midlands and South, a part of which was the Tern Aqueduct at 2 above.

Thanks to Telford and his integrated transport system heavy industry in Northern Ireland developed, eventually leading to the Irish heavy shipbuilding industry that gave the world the Titanic and Oceanic sister liners.

All three are historically important as they are major landmarks in the Industrial Revolution.

1 may be the odd one out as Telford built the other two, or 2 may be othe odd one out as it is an aqueduct and the other two are bridges.

Bags of points all round and orange slices in the changing rooms. On the TV will be Industrial Revelations With Mark Williams where I got these fascinating links from and which can be seen on Discovery Science channel on your TV.

[Nereus]

This railing is from a memorial bridge...which bridge and what is the significance of the area?

This one posted on 23rd June, page 48, has not been solved. How about letting us in on it, kalbow?

[PeteC]

Was Lord Haw-Haw of WWII fame named Sir Percival Hawley, or William Joyce? This is a real question as searches result in conflicting information. Pete

[migrant]

Was Lord Haw-Haw of WWII fame named Sir Percival Hawley, or William Joyce? This is a real question as searches result in conflicting information. Pete

I think it is William Joyce. Sir Percival Hawley is a comic book character from Marvel comics and Sargent Fury I believe

[dtaai-maai]

If it wasn't William Joyce, then his hanging for treason in 1946 could be deemed a tad unfair!