TrueMove plays the race card in revenge against DTAC

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Re: TrueMove plays the race card in revenge against DTAC

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As an aside...............

Ironically, TrueMove has recently just started a Thai TV/in malls etc advert that is advertising 3G Wifi "finally" to quote the advert correctly. Obviously they are not mentioning that they are one of the parties that have cynically postponed it for so long so that it benefits their greed. :tsk:

I'm sure it's got nothing whatsoever to do with any of the other headline making stuff that has been flying around recently. :roll: :mrgreen:
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Re: TrueMove plays the race card in revenge against DTAC

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Hi there Y'all

Here one example out of Germany of how Mobile networks should work.
In Germany we have four large Mobile Phone Operrators of course they could devide up the Cake in each having 25% but we also have a dozen medium to small size Mobile Phone Ops who in all take about 18 to 20% of the marketshare! By having so many Competitors helps to lower cost to as low as 4.5 Euro\cents per minute or even lower.
It's a concept completely alien to Thais I think.
In the Thai biznet community it's fine to have as low as 2 players in a market they can than ok Letz coexsist together and find out ways how to suck the hard earned Money out of our customers.

It wouldn't surprise me a bit when a few years down the line True Move & AIS merge together to form Thailands only & largest mobile phone network provider.
This had happened before 20. Years ago when there where 2 major Cable TV providers IBC and U-TV where wowing for subscriber numbers to increase subriber numbers and fought it out with quality content.
While iBC was looosing subcribers to UTV fast something happened which later which prompted the merger of IBC and UTV which created UBC in the mid to late 90's. Thus we customer have to pay the the ridiculously high prices for Cable TV packages with True Visions with minescule quality content we have today cause of lack of Alternatives.

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Re: TrueMove plays the race card in revenge against DTAC

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The understudy wrote:Hi there Y'all
Here one example out of Germany of how Mobile networks should work.
In Germany we have four large Mobile Phone Operrators of course they could devide up the Cake in each having 25% but we also have a dozen medium to small size Mobile Phone Ops who in all take about 18 to 20% of the marketshare! By having so many Competitors helps to lower cost to as low as 4.5 Euro\cents per minute or even lower.

It's a concept completely alien to Thais I think.
I think this whole issue is about the concept of alien's doing business in a sector that is prohibited to them :idea:

Hi Understudy, you do know that this action is not being instigated by the Thai government or people but as a result of a complaint of a few Thai shareholders of a member of the business community, they have no option but to inestigate it. It's the sort of dirty trick businesses play on rival businesses the world over, in my country some of the bigger companies achieve this by stealing the trash from outside the homes of rival CEO's. It wasn't as bad as that this time as True only seemed to take the legal route in response to the (alleged) illegal foreign company taking... the legal route against them. Has this irony escaped you?

And the reason Dtac took the legal route was they thought the concessions offered were, wait for it.... 'unfair' to them, lofl. They couldn't handle the competition, sound familiar :wink:

With regard to 'competition', the foreign majority owned companies who are participating in sectors that are currently prohibited to foreign companies (incl. myself) are the ones who are holding back competition. This is because the firms that the business is open to, Thai companies, are dissuaded from becoming involved because they know that a superior foreign firm can just step in at any moment and put them out of business. You and others on this thread seem to be advocating this 'law of the jungle' type regime be allowed to carry on unchallenged. So do I, but at least I have the honesty to admit I, and the other foreign companies involved, are in the wrong and taking advantage of loopholes in the regulations. True are not in the wrong here just because they can't handle the competition and decided to do a bit of sneaky grassing, it might make them undesirables shall we say, but they're still in the right over this.

And let's not forget Dtac are not being stitched up by some new law that's just been introduced, they're just being asked to demonstrate what they are swearing blind to us is the truth already. No big deal surely... or are they lying and pulling the wool over their adoring fans' eyes :naughty: If it's proved they were lying to you will you still support them because they are farangs and not Thais? :wink:


Spitfire wrote:Ironically, TrueMove has recently just started a Thai TV/in malls etc advert that is advertising 3G Wifi "finally" to quote the advert correctly. Obviously they are not mentioning that they are one of the parties that have cynically postponed it for so long so that it benefits their greed.
Is this whole issue not the result of Dtac's complaints and threatened legal action as a result of True being awared concessions to go and advance the 3G network/service. Was it not Dtac the 'precious' foreigner who was trying to hold back the Thais from expanding the 3G service? Was Dtac putting themselves before the interests of the customers?... maybe that's what the 'finally' is in reference too :D

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One day before the official decision is announced if DTAC has broken Foreign ownership rules and regulations.
The acting commerce minister is apparently rushing to get tbis case as fast as possible so the incumbent commerce minister from the Peuh Thai Party can't lay his hand on this case.
Here's this cases progress in today's Bangkok Post.

http://www.bangkokpost.com/business/tel ... -continues

This statement by an Telecoms specialist which is at the rear end of this artlicle I find most important.
Anuparb Thiralarp, an independent telecom specialist, said he doubted the authority of Mr Alongkorn and his adviser to directly take charge DTAC case.
If DTAC is found to have breached the FBA, then AIS should fall under the same rules," he said, referring to the mobile market leader, since Temasek Holding of Singapore is the major shareholder in AIS's parent, Shin Corp.
The investigation should be run by ministry officials and related agencies and handled carefully during the transition to the new government, Mr Anuparb said."
Anything y'all here on HHAD might add?

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