How do you builders get the city (Tessabahn?) to do their job as far as infrastructure is concerned, or do you just give up and do it yourself? When we built, the road in front of our house was a very good surfaced road, and we are actually on a corner with a dirt (public) soi running down one side of our property.
As the area has developed the road has crumbled completely and is now dirt, gravel and potholes. My missus and several (Thai) neighbors have complained to the Tessabahn for several years to no avail. Plus the dirt road beside us became unused when the community changed from farming/grazing land to a developed area and it has become grown up with three meter trees and jungle undergrowth over the last year. We are now paying to have that stripped and cleaned ourselves, just to be able to get a vehicle to our rear entry gate.
This should be the responsibility of the local government but it seems they don't care. Do you have to know which palms to grease to get something like this done or is it just hopeless and you end up doing it yourself.
As a second question to you builders... I would like to keep the soi beside my property clean now that we are paying to clean it, but as it is dirt and little used, it will revert to jungle rapidly. What can I do (to the ground) to stop the growth of vegetation and how much does it cost to just put that small light colored gravel on a road approximately 5 meters wide by 100 meters long?
How do you guys get the city to do their job?
How do you guys get the city to do their job?
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Re: How do you guys get the city to do their job?
If you want to stop the weed growth, spray it with Round-Up. I use it to spray anything that comes up where I don't want any growth. Deadly stuff and kills the roots. I got some at Nursery on ocean side of P--road about 100m before overhead walkway when coming south from ChaAm into town past Index. Lots of flowers in nursery. Australian educated Thai runs or family owns the place.
Re: How do you guys get the city to do their job?
Thanks brianks, I used to use Round Up in the U.S. but I didn't know it was available here. I'll spray it and maybe I won't have to shell out to clean it up every year. 
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Re: How do you guys get the city to do their job?
I just read a suggestion by dtaai-maai on the thread about the railroad crossing accident about salting the vegetation near the crossings to keep it from blocking visibility.
Now, I've cleaned the road next to my property and it's loose dirt that will turn back into jungle in less than a year. Someone suggested Round-up which is a chemical weed killer but not only would that be expensive I don't like working with chemicals that much.
When I read dtaai-maai's post it reminded me of historical accounts I've read of conquering armies salting the earth behind them so that food could not be grown there for years to come resulting in a huge economic problem for their enemies.
The huge bags of sea salt sold on the highway just before Bangkok in Samut whatever are very cheap and safe to apply. If I bought a few of those and just spread the salt on the loose earth of the road, would that really stop the vegetation from returning for a while?
Now, I've cleaned the road next to my property and it's loose dirt that will turn back into jungle in less than a year. Someone suggested Round-up which is a chemical weed killer but not only would that be expensive I don't like working with chemicals that much.
When I read dtaai-maai's post it reminded me of historical accounts I've read of conquering armies salting the earth behind them so that food could not be grown there for years to come resulting in a huge economic problem for their enemies.
The huge bags of sea salt sold on the highway just before Bangkok in Samut whatever are very cheap and safe to apply. If I bought a few of those and just spread the salt on the loose earth of the road, would that really stop the vegetation from returning for a while?
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Re: How do you guys get the city to do their job?
I don't know but this site suggests it will and I might give it a try on some land by our house in Issan:
http://www.garden-counselor-lawn-care.c ... iller.html
"Salt
Many of the homemade weed killer recipes include salt. Most suggest regular table salt, some say water-softener salt, others mention rock salt. Salt is salt. Salt kills plants. It may be added to some recipes to kill the plants when vinegar alone won’t.
Salt also acts as a desiccant, drawing moisture out of the plant. Most recipes are intended for use as a foliar spray. A few will instruct you to drench the soil around the weeds, expecting to kill the root more successfully.
Salt is problematic. It will get rid of your weeds, but also anything else nearby. It will hang around, leaving you with long term difficulty when you want to grow desirable plants. You may have heard the term “burned a plant with fertilizer”. That is because regular fertilizer is a salt. Apply it too heavily and plants die. Salt can remain in the soil, even affecting roots from distant plants.
If your desire in wanting to use home made weed killer is because you want natural products, instead of chemicals, don’t use salt as a weed killer. It defeats the effort of trying to develop healthy soil.
The one exception might be if you are spot treating weeds that pop up in cracks in your driveway, patio or sidewalks. Just use it sparingly, as it can leach into the area where good plants live."
http://www.garden-counselor-lawn-care.c ... iller.html
"Salt
Many of the homemade weed killer recipes include salt. Most suggest regular table salt, some say water-softener salt, others mention rock salt. Salt is salt. Salt kills plants. It may be added to some recipes to kill the plants when vinegar alone won’t.
Salt also acts as a desiccant, drawing moisture out of the plant. Most recipes are intended for use as a foliar spray. A few will instruct you to drench the soil around the weeds, expecting to kill the root more successfully.
Salt is problematic. It will get rid of your weeds, but also anything else nearby. It will hang around, leaving you with long term difficulty when you want to grow desirable plants. You may have heard the term “burned a plant with fertilizer”. That is because regular fertilizer is a salt. Apply it too heavily and plants die. Salt can remain in the soil, even affecting roots from distant plants.
If your desire in wanting to use home made weed killer is because you want natural products, instead of chemicals, don’t use salt as a weed killer. It defeats the effort of trying to develop healthy soil.
The one exception might be if you are spot treating weeds that pop up in cracks in your driveway, patio or sidewalks. Just use it sparingly, as it can leach into the area where good plants live."
Re: How do you guys get the city to do their job?
It's for a public dirt road that is little used so it reverts to jungle very fast. What is desirable is that there will never be any plants on it again of any kind until someday the authorities decide to pave it. That's why I'm looking for a permanent solution. I just paid thousands of baht to have three meter tall foliage removed from it that had grown up over about two rainy seasons. As it should be the responsibility of the city and I can't afford to pay thousands more to cement or even gravel it, I want to do something to keep anything from ever growing on it again.It will get rid of your weeds, but also anything else nearby. It will hang around, leaving you with long term difficulty when you want to grow desirable plants.
So are you saying that if I sprinkle salt on the road it will spread to the surrounding land once it is soaked in by the rain, or will it only have the desired effect of keeping the road itself from ever producing foliage again?
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Re: How do you guys get the city to do their job?
That was just a quote from the website HH but that's what it says; I suppose it could depend on whether you have anything like large trees where the roots would go under the road.
I don't know exactly how much salt would be required as you could obviously over do it.
I don't know exactly how much salt would be required as you could obviously over do it.
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Re: How do you guys get the city to do their job?
Salt does sound like the most eco friendly option HHF - maybe mixed with vinegar? if you aren't bothered about re-planting the area it has to be worth a try IMO. With any chemicals the effect on animal life can be worse than the effect on plant life. And as you have seen the plant life re-growth time in that climate is pretty fast anyway.
If there are any tree stumps left drill holes in them and pour paraffin into the holes. Or burn off first before treating them.
If it's any consolation the problem you describe doesn't only happen in Thailand. I think you will find that once new properties have been built the Tessabahn will have devolved responsibilty for the upkeep of common access to the property owners.
If there are any tree stumps left drill holes in them and pour paraffin into the holes. Or burn off first before treating them.
If it's any consolation the problem you describe doesn't only happen in Thailand. I think you will find that once new properties have been built the Tessabahn will have devolved responsibilty for the upkeep of common access to the property owners.
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Re: How do you guys get the city to do their job?
It's interesting this comes up as I was just watching a report on the Japanese tsunami and they mentioned that the fields the sea washed over will be infertile for 5-8 years. The big difference in the estimate seems to depend upon the amount of rain and snowfall the area will get. Pete
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