Beer Chang dilemma...

[hhfarang]

^ Yes! One of my favorites here... and now it's available around Hua Hin!

[caller]

Hi Caller
Blue Moon is a mediocre attempt at a Belgian White beer that is gaining popularity in the US. It tries to create an image of a small microbrew, but it's actually brewwed by Coors which is a huge brewery in the US. Oddly enough, it has also become trendy to drop a slice of orange in the brew before drinking, kind of like the slice of lime with a Corona (neither appeals to me)

Many thanks for that. I did wonder why Tescos were flogging something that seemed to be a specialised brew, when unlike other supermarkets, I guess within a 20 mile radius, they don't support the 3 small local breweries and 1 or 2 from slightly further afield?

Edit - should say I have no problem with good quality imported ale, but the price of Blue Moon put it up there with the 'artisan' brews.

[johnnyk]

Coors is even worse than Budweiser. Stretches the imagination but it's true. Craft brewers are gaining market share in North America so the industrial swillmakers are putting catchy names on the bottles to snag the unwary or those who know nothing about beer.

[margaretcarnes]

Coors is even worse than Budweiser. Stretches the imagination but it's true. Craft brewers are gaining market share in North America so the industrial swillmakers are putting catchy names on the bottles to snag the unwary or those who know nothing about beer.

How do you rate Miller Light against Coors and Bud johnny?

[Coldmike]

Coors, Bud & Miller Lite are all pretty bad. If I had to pick, it would be Bud as the least bad. Coors has barely more flavor than water and amazingly their Coors Light has been rapidlly gaining market share from Miller Lite. I think a lot has to do with their marketing using American sports.

I actually fondly remember Coors from about 30 years ago. It was only available in Colorado back then so the only time you ever saw it was when someone came back from there with a supply. It was kind of like a cultish thing and we all thought it tasted so smooth (you know, rocky mountain snow melt etc.) We were young and stupid!

[PeteC]

What's happened to regular Miller (the champagne of bottle beer ), stopped brewing it? I remember long ago that was the only beer to be sold in a clear glass bottle. Pete

[hhfarang]

All mass produced American beers are bad (unless you call Sam Adams a mass produced one). I drank a lot of Miller in my youth because I didn't know any better, but after my first visit to Germany I never touched one again (or Bud or Bush or Schlitz or Pabst or any of the other giant breweries products). There are some great beers produced in America by smaller breweries and brew pubs, plus you can get imports from nearly any country easily there. I put back a lot of Pilsner Urquell in my 30's and 40's as it was widely available even on tap and it is one of my favorite beers (from the Czeck Republic; their version of Budweiser a great beer too but I've never seen it outside Europe).



I would have taken the Chang back and tested their refund policy...

[Coldmike]

Miller High Life, the Champagne of Beers is indeed still produced in the states (still the same clear glass). Brings back memories... Long ago it battled the other 'premium' mass produced beers, but now is now surviving as a cheap beer. Often it is sold in 30 can cases for less than the price of 12 Heinekens. They're marketing campaign is actually pretty funny. They had a beer truck driver walk into high-so type places and claim the snobs there didn't deserve to drink the "High Life'

[margaretcarnes]

All mass produced American beers are bad (unless you call Sam Adams a mass produced one). I drank a lot of Miller in my youth because I didn't know any better, but after my first visit to Germany I never touched one again (or Bud or Bush or Schlitz or Pabst or any of the other giant breweries products). There are some great beers produced in America by smaller breweries and brew pubs, plus you can get imports from nearly any country easily there. I put back a lot of Pilsner Urquell in my 30's and 40's as it was widely available even on tap and it is one of my favorite beers (from the Czeck Republic; their version of Budweiser a great beer too but I've never seen it outside Europe).



I would have taken the Chang back and tested their refund policy...

If you mean the real 'Budva' hhf I found it once in the little bar in the middle of Chatuchak - maybe a one off.

[PeteC]

IMO, the Thais don't produce any good beer at all. The closest I've come to finding something consistently enjoyable has been San Miguel pale lager, and draft Heineken. I really don't see the attraction of export Chang. Maybe it's the novelty of the elephants on the bottle label? The Beer Lao threat has been well documented on here before. The quality of that brew scares the Thai breweries to death. We have to remember though, the Thai beer made and sold here is not targeted at foreigners. It's targeted at those who also enjoy a small Red Bull brown bottle half filled with Lao Khao. That tells the story.

I think most of us drink slightly 'off' beer more than we think. With the heat here and transport/storage methods, sometimes the bottle date means nothing. Pete

[johnnyk]

Coors is even worse than Budweiser. Stretches the imagination but it's true. Craft brewers are gaining market share in North America so the industrial swillmakers are putting catchy names on the bottles to snag the unwary or those who know nothing about beer.

How do you rate Miller Light against Coors and Bud johnny?

The lab test indicated the horse is diabetic. Tasteless, weak, watery swill.

[johnnyk]

Craft beers are growing rapidly in Canada and the US. Canadian industrial "beer" is as bad as American. The only difference is you can actually get pissed on the canuck stuff.
Craft beers are made by beer lovers not accountants and marketing weasels.

[PeteC]

That's a shame about Canadian beer. Labatt and Molson used to be great stuff, but I haven't had either for about 20 years. Pete

[johnnyk]

That's a shame about Canadian beer. Labatt and Molson used to be great stuff, but I haven't had either for about 20 years. Pete

They are vile chemical-laden brews. They were horrible when I started drinking beer nearly 50 years ago but we had no other choices back then. Now, in Victoria where I live, we have seven craft breweries in a city of 350,000. All the big guys have to do is brew decent beer but the marketing weasels call the shots knowing rookie quaffers will be fooled by the ads.

[hhfarang]

I used to drink a lot of ...