!! I shall however, endeavour to get another challenge correct so I can post a damn right dastardly difficult historical puzzle next time!!!! 
Well, congrats and over to you Nereus
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DOH!!! Well so much for that bl**dy challenge.... lasted all of 10 minutes !! I shall however, endeavour to get another challenge correct so I can post a damn right dastardly difficult historical puzzle next time!!!!
Well, congrats and over to you Nereus
!! I shall however, endeavour to get another challenge correct so I can post a damn right dastardly difficult historical puzzle next time!!!! Well, congrats and over to you Nereus
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dammit....wandered by too late
Its the infamous London Hammer....a US creationist dimwit bit of cod "evidence" that creationism is fact. Whilst corrosve to sound thinking it is at least not a direct bit of vandalism of geological evidence such as the trail of dinosaur tracks in the US that a creationist ruined by hand carving mans footprints into to fake man existng with dinosaurs.
Theres a good breakdown of why the claim is clownshoes here, including the fact that (as I know from my geology eductaion) rapid concretion of calcite deposits can occur in decades:
http://paleo.cc/paluxy/hammer.htm
the owner, who is the proprietor of a laughably named evangelical christian creationist "museum", has refused to do any proper scentfic checks on the hammer which should tell you all you need to know as reguards its probable provenance.
Its a great example of makng the evidence fit the theory and US christian reality denial at all costs, and belongs alongside PT Barnums famous FeeJee Mermaid and The Shroud of Turin.
As to the earler post re the Roman cavalry helmet: In cases such as that we should have a law similar to Egypt where the state has the right to sieze such items as being of national historical importance. Sod the finders.
Its the infamous London Hammer....a US creationist dimwit bit of cod "evidence" that creationism is fact. Whilst corrosve to sound thinking it is at least not a direct bit of vandalism of geological evidence such as the trail of dinosaur tracks in the US that a creationist ruined by hand carving mans footprints into to fake man existng with dinosaurs.
Theres a good breakdown of why the claim is clownshoes here, including the fact that (as I know from my geology eductaion) rapid concretion of calcite deposits can occur in decades:
http://paleo.cc/paluxy/hammer.htm
the owner, who is the proprietor of a laughably named evangelical christian creationist "museum", has refused to do any proper scentfic checks on the hammer which should tell you all you need to know as reguards its probable provenance.
Its a great example of makng the evidence fit the theory and US christian reality denial at all costs, and belongs alongside PT Barnums famous FeeJee Mermaid and The Shroud of Turin.
As to the earler post re the Roman cavalry helmet: In cases such as that we should have a law similar to Egypt where the state has the right to sieze such items as being of national historical importance. Sod the finders.
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OK, rub it in!!!..... Anyway - new posser required - Nereus?
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ok....working on a theme
what is this, where is it found, and why is it controversial?
when that one gets answered I have a nice 4X4 flm challenge crossover question ready
what is this, where is it found, and why is it controversial?
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It's a stegosaurus, a rhino or a hoax, depending on your point of view...
"It is not known precisely when the carving was first noticed, but during the past several years, creationist groups have been a-twitter about a supposed carving of a Stegosaurus on the popular Ta Prohm temple in Cambodia. (The story recently reappeared on the “All News Web” site, an internet tabloid that specializes in tales of UFOs and other humbugs.) Since the temple was built around the end of the 12th century, some take this bas relief to suggest that Stegosaurus, or something Stegosaurus-like, survived until a few hundred years ago. While certainly not proving their view that dinosaurs and humans were created together less than 10,000 years ago, it is consistent with their beliefs and is a favorite piece of evidence among creationists."
"It is not known precisely when the carving was first noticed, but during the past several years, creationist groups have been a-twitter about a supposed carving of a Stegosaurus on the popular Ta Prohm temple in Cambodia. (The story recently reappeared on the “All News Web” site, an internet tabloid that specializes in tales of UFOs and other humbugs.) Since the temple was built around the end of the 12th century, some take this bas relief to suggest that Stegosaurus, or something Stegosaurus-like, survived until a few hundred years ago. While certainly not proving their view that dinosaurs and humans were created together less than 10,000 years ago, it is consistent with their beliefs and is a favorite piece of evidence among creationists."
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Stegosaurus: wonderful to have all those Wiki sites to help eh, DM? 
This thread is turning into Wiki HH.
This thread is turning into Wiki HH.
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DM should hva added the following for full marks
this grossly misidentified Indian rhino carving on the temple wall, which is exactly what the carving depicts, has everything Stegosaurus don't in fact have, including long ears, horns or tusks, thick, folding skin, a big, round, beakless head with hardly any neck attached to it, and a short, skinny mammalian tail.
this grossly misidentified Indian rhino carving on the temple wall, which is exactly what the carving depicts, has everything Stegosaurus don't in fact have, including long ears, horns or tusks, thick, folding skin, a big, round, beakless head with hardly any neck attached to it, and a short, skinny mammalian tail.
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Stegosaurus, Rhinoceros, or Hoax? | Dinosaur Tracking
blogs.smithsonianmag.com/.../stegosaurus-rhinoceros-hoax/ - CachedIt is not known precisely when the carving was first noticed, but during the past several years, creationist groups have been a-twitter about a supposed carving of ...
Straight lift from the Smithsonian NOT Wiki
blogs.smithsonianmag.com/.../stegosaurus-rhinoceros-hoax/ - CachedIt is not known precisely when the carving was first noticed, but during the past several years, creationist groups have been a-twitter about a supposed carving of ...
Straight lift from the Smithsonian NOT Wiki
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OK, let's give this another crack.........
What & where? This area is also the possible location of what artifact?
What & where? This area is also the possible location of what artifact?
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The original LEGOLAND 
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Folly in North Yorkshire?
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Interesting guess, but............. nope.Terry wrote:The original LEGOLAND
just a smidgin out ........... around 5,000 miles at a guess.richard wrote:Folly in North Yorkshire?
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It's King Ezana's stele (nice try not showing the top...), a kind of obelisk. It's in Ethopia.
The Ark of the Covenant?
The Ark of the Covenant?
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Bugger!! Well, lasted a little longer this time...dtaai-maai wrote:It's King Ezana's stele (nice try not showing the top...), a kind of obelisk. It's in Ethopia.
The Ark of the Covenant?
Yep, located in Axum, Ethiopia and the Treasury in Axum, is said to house the biblical Ark of the Covenant.
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