And whilst you are going down that route HHFarang. I've read your posts with interest for a few years now and not once have you mentioned anything of the sort regarding 'people like me' being one of the reasons you want to move - everything else but to be honest.
Don't understand your sudden bout of anger... once again follow my posts and re-read them for good measure.
Edit: Screw it... I know you're getting on and things are beginning to pack in so I'll post a small snippet of my ramblings prior just for you.
Maybe this thread shouldn't have been titled as it was. I'd only experienced this from this particular nationality but as HHFarang has said, I'm sure it's just the same for other groups too.
We all have differences, most of us know what it's like to live in a minority. If we can't hack it we should move on.
I believe most of us here in Thailand are happy and are willing to accept the flack, jibes and joking that goes with being an expat. I don't believe in bashing people based on generalisations regarding where you come from
Chill Time for some music
RICHARD OF LOXLEY
It’s none of my business what people say and think of me. I am what I am and do what I do. I expect nothing and accept everything. It makes life so much easier.
GLCQuantum wrote:Nothing I say ever rings with them even when I say how we pronounce a word in England
Wow, you really do that? Have you considered they might just have taken a dislike to you for being so patronising? Next time I speak to my Oz brother in law, I'll have a go at that, but I'll make sure I'm out of harms way!
GLCQuantum wrote:Is this why they are so hated around the world... that when their numbers overpower the other a sensible conversation with the minority is out of the question?
Nice generalisation that, all based on one experience - well done.
Alright before you get ya knickers in a twist let me put out a scenario.. (I don't go around correcting pronunciation for one - do people actually do that) Unfortunately with posts some are completely unaware of actual happenings but are instead more inclined to make up their own little scenario of how it must have playeed out using the few cells bobbing about.
Here we are then...
A crossword is being done. One lad says 4 down is *insert English word only used in England*. I ask what he means by said word and am duly given definition. 'Oh', I think to myself. 'You meant to say *insert same word pronounced how we would understand it*'. A barrage of abuse follows with member of table swearing I'm saying it wrong and that he knows because he has lived in England for a couple of years. Half finished beer goes on table... I walk home - can't be arsed.
Cheers..
Nice generalisation that, all based on one experience - well done
Yeah a bit harsh that one granted. I'm not gonna go back and delete things I posted before I thunk though like most. Try reading it all too Caller, rather than extracting the bits that take ya fancy and 'aving a pop.
All I can say is most of the expats here who have ripped me off or made my life miserable by trying to were transplanted criminals from the UK that are in the property business or otherwise. It seems that Thailand is the new Australia where the UK sends all its criminals. Ask Donald Whiting about the experience he had with a Brit here.
Unfortunately for Thailand, when the UK signed an extradition treaty with Spain in 2001, many UK criminals who were on the run there started looking for somewhere else to go and they brought their dodgy money laundering property businesses with them.
I would generally consider it to mean braided or entwined.
I think it can also be used to mean 'pleat' (Pleet) as in pleats in material, like a skirt.
A purveyor of the tonsorial arts might well suggest that plaits are usually thicker than braids, and that a plait could be made of a number of smaller braids.
I would never pronounce it as 'plates', as in dinner plates, or nickel-plated but then it is one of those tricky words and quite possible that parts of the UK might pronounce it differently - perhaps your American 'chum' spent his two years in the UK as a dialectologist.
You may say 'Tomayto', and I say 'Tomato', you say 'Potayto', but surely no-one in their right mind would imagine anyone says 'Potaaaaato'.
Back to topic then. My leaving question was asking if anyone had experienced anything similiar which HHFarang has kindly answered...unfortunately us Brits being the guilty party with that one.
I should be thankful it's taken this long to run into a bad group I suppose. Or as some may say, maybe I'm the bad one in a good group
I think if you are the 'odd one out' than it's to be expected that you'll get ribbed for it, that's human nature whether you like it or not. People form 'tribes' with similar people and then exercise their dominance on those with smaller 'tribes'. Nothing you can do about that except find someone even further from their group similarities than you are and then join in with picking on the new whipping boy. Tribes, gangs, cliques, fraternities or whatever you want to call them, only work well when there is a common enemy; real or perceived.
You can see it in action here when Jockey, Nid, The Intergalactic Queef, etc starts to post under a new name.
Here's a poem to get them to try
Dearest creature in creation,
Study English pronunciation.
I will teach you in my verse
Sounds like corpse, corps, horse, and worse.
I will keep you, Suzy, busy,
Make your head with heat grow dizzy.
Tear in eye, your dress will tear.
So shall I! Oh hear my prayer.
Just compare heart, beard, and heard,
Dies and diet, lord and word,
Sword and sward, retain and Britain.
(Mind the latter, how it's written.)
Now I surely will not plague you
With such words as plaque and ague.
But be careful how you speak:
Say break and steak, but bleak and streak;
Cloven, oven, how and low,
Script, receipt, show, poem, and toe.
Hear me say, devoid of trickery,
Daughter, laughter, and Terpsichore,
Typhoid, measles, topsails, aisles,
Exiles, similes, and reviles;
Scholar, vicar, and cigar,
Solar, mica, war and far;
One, anemone, Balmoral,
Kitchen, lichen, laundry, laurel;
Gertrude, German, wind and mind,
Scene, Melpomene, mankind.
Billet does not rhyme with ballet,
Bouquet, wallet, mallet, chalet.
Blood and flood are not like food,
Nor is mould like should and would.
Viscous, viscount, load and broad,
Toward, to forward, to reward.
And your pronunciation's OK
When you correctly say croquet,
Rounded, wounded, grieve and sieve,
Friend and fiend, alive and live.
Ivy, privy, famous; clamour
And enamour rhyme with hammer.
River, rival, tomb, bomb, comb,
Doll and roll and some and home.
Stranger does not rhyme with anger,
Neither does devour with clangour.
Souls but foul, haunt but aunt,
Font, front, wont, want, grand, and grant,
Shoes, goes, does. Now first say finger,
And then singer, ginger, linger,
Real, zeal, mauve, gauze, gouge and gauge,
Marriage, foliage, mirage, and age.
Query does not rhyme with very,
Nor does fury sound like bury.
Dost, lost, post and doth, cloth, loth.
Job, nob, bosom, transom, oath.
Though the differences seem little,
We say actual but victual.
Refer does not rhyme with deafer.
Foeffer does, and zephyr, heifer.
Mint, pint, senate and sedate;
Dull, bull, and George ate late.
Scenic, Arabic, Pacific,
Science, conscience, scientific.
Liberty, library, heave and heaven,
Rachel, ache, moustache, eleven.
We say hallowed, but allowed,
People, leopard, towed, but vowed.
Mark the differences, moreover,
Between mover, cover, clover;
Leeches, breeches, wise, precise,
Chalice, but police and lice;
Camel, constable, unstable,
Principle, disciple, label.
Petal, panel, and canal,
Wait, surprise, plait, promise, pal.
Worm and storm, chaise, chaos, chair,
Senator, spectator, mayor.
Tour, but our and succour, four.
Gas, alas, and Arkansas.
Sea, idea, Korea, area,
Psalm, Maria, but malaria.
Youth, south, southern, cleanse and clean.
Doctrine, turpentine, marine.
Compare alien with Italian,
Dandelion and battalion.
Sally with ally, yea, ye,
Eye, I, ay, aye, whey, and key.
Say aver, but ever, fever,
Neither, leisure, skein, deceiver.
Heron, granary, canary.
Crevice and device and aerie.
Face, but preface, not efface.
Phlegm, phlegmatic, ass, glass, bass.
Large, but target, gin, give, verging,
Ought, out, joust and scour, scourging.
Ear, but earn and wear and tear
Do not rhyme with here but ere.
Seven is right, but so is even,
Hyphen, roughen, nephew Stephen,
Monkey, donkey, Turk and jerk,
Ask, grasp, wasp, and cork and work.
Pronunciation -- think of Psyche!
Is a paling stout and spikey?
Won't it make you lose your wits,
Writing groats and saying grits?
It's a dark abyss or tunnel:
Strewn with stones, stowed, solace, gunwale,
Islington and Isle of Wight,
Housewife, verdict and indict.
Finally, which rhymes with enough --
Though, through, plough, or dough, or cough?
Hiccough has the sound of cup.
My advice is to give up!!!
Frank Hovis wrote:I think if you are the 'odd one out' than it's to be expected that you'll get ribbed for it, that's human nature whether you like it or not. People form 'tribes' with similar people and then exercise their dominance on those with smaller 'tribes'. Nothing you can do about that except find someone even further from their group similarities than you are and then join in with picking on the new whipping boy. Tribes, gangs, cliques, fraternities or whatever you want to call them, only work well when there is a common enemy; real or perceived.
You can see it in action here when Jockey, Nid, The Intergalactic Queef, etc starts to post under a new name.
Here's a poem to get them to try
Dearest creature in creation,
Study English pronunciation.
I will teach you in my verse
Sounds like corpse, corps, horse, and worse.
I will keep you, Suzy, busy,
Make your head with heat grow dizzy.
Tear in eye, your dress will tear.
So shall I! Oh hear my prayer.
Just compare heart, beard, and heard,
Dies and diet, lord and word,
Sword and sward, retain and Britain.
(Mind the latter, how it's written.)
Now I surely will not plague you
With such words as plaque and ague.
But be careful how you speak:
Say break and steak, but bleak and streak;
Cloven, oven, how and low,
Script, receipt, show, poem, and toe.
Hear me say, devoid of trickery,
Daughter, laughter, and Terpsichore,
Typhoid, measles, topsails, aisles,
Exiles, similes, and reviles;
Scholar, vicar, and cigar,
Solar, mica, war and far;
One, anemone, Balmoral,
Kitchen, lichen, laundry, laurel;
Gertrude, German, wind and mind,
Scene, Melpomene, mankind.
Billet does not rhyme with ballet,
Bouquet, wallet, mallet, chalet.
Blood and flood are not like food,
Nor is mould like should and would.
Viscous, viscount, load and broad,
Toward, to forward, to reward.
And your pronunciation's OK
When you correctly say croquet,
Rounded, wounded, grieve and sieve,
Friend and fiend, alive and live.
Ivy, privy, famous; clamour
And enamour rhyme with hammer.
River, rival, tomb, bomb, comb,
Doll and roll and some and home.
Stranger does not rhyme with anger,
Neither does devour with clangour.
Souls but foul, haunt but aunt,
Font, front, wont, want, grand, and grant,
Shoes, goes, does. Now first say finger,
And then singer, ginger, linger,
Real, zeal, mauve, gauze, gouge and gauge,
Marriage, foliage, mirage, and age.
Query does not rhyme with very,
Nor does fury sound like bury.
Dost, lost, post and doth, cloth, loth.
Job, nob, bosom, transom, oath.
Though the differences seem little,
We say actual but victual.
Refer does not rhyme with deafer.
Foeffer does, and zephyr, heifer.
Mint, pint, senate and sedate;
Dull, bull, and George ate late.
Scenic, Arabic, Pacific,
Science, conscience, scientific.
Liberty, library, heave and heaven,
Rachel, ache, moustache, eleven.
We say hallowed, but allowed,
People, leopard, towed, but vowed.
Mark the differences, moreover,
Between mover, cover, clover;
Leeches, breeches, wise, precise,
Chalice, but police and lice;
Camel, constable, unstable,
Principle, disciple, label.
Petal, panel, and canal,
Wait, surprise, plait, promise, pal.
Worm and storm, chaise, chaos, chair,
Senator, spectator, mayor.
Tour, but our and succour, four.
Gas, alas, and Arkansas.
Sea, idea, Korea, area,
Psalm, Maria, but malaria.
Youth, south, southern, cleanse and clean.
Doctrine, turpentine, marine.
Compare alien with Italian,
Dandelion and battalion.
Sally with ally, yea, ye,
Eye, I, ay, aye, whey, and key.
Say aver, but ever, fever,
Neither, leisure, skein, deceiver.
Heron, granary, canary.
Crevice and device and aerie.
Face, but preface, not efface.
Phlegm, phlegmatic, ass, glass, bass.
Large, but target, gin, give, verging,
Ought, out, joust and scour, scourging.
Ear, but earn and wear and tear
Do not rhyme with here but ere.
Seven is right, but so is even,
Hyphen, roughen, nephew Stephen,
Monkey, donkey, Turk and jerk,
Ask, grasp, wasp, and cork and work.
Pronunciation -- think of Psyche!
Is a paling stout and spikey?
Won't it make you lose your wits,
Writing groats and saying grits?
It's a dark abyss or tunnel:
Strewn with stones, stowed, solace, gunwale,
Islington and Isle of Wight,
Housewife, verdict and indict.
Finally, which rhymes with enough --
Though, through, plough, or dough, or cough?
Hiccough has the sound of cup.
My advice is to give up!!!
But never mention Caribbean !
Love it
Where from?
RICHARD OF LOXLEY
It’s none of my business what people say and think of me. I am what I am and do what I do. I expect nothing and accept everything. It makes life so much easier.
Time for some music 
