WARNING.......CLONING CARDS IN OPERATION

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WARNING.......CLONING CARDS IN OPERATION

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I've been :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: with HSBC for a month now and have spent many hours on their website and taking calls from some call centre in Calcutta's red light centre. Now I know why.

After many vitriolic posts to them on the website it seems my debit card was cloned and someone was trying to use it in Chang Mai. This was thwarted by HSBC as my records show that I have never used my debit card in Thailand outside of HH, KK and BK and the amounts that were being requested were way above my spending patterns.

As a rule debit and credit cards are used by me in emergency only and I rely on transferring money monthly to my bank in HH and sticking the cash under the bed, or in the microwave, or in the washing machine if a BG or 2 is about :naughty:

I know many who have been subject to the same but bank and CC system software is actually very perceptive in terms of your habits and movements (Big Brother job) but can help you. I remember some time ago I'd bought furniture in Exeter and then groceries in Dawlish. Card rejected in Dawlish as distance from Exeter to Dawlish is 10 miles. I covered the ground between the two in less than 15 minutes. (BMW328i jobbie). On another occasion my daughter went to live in Nice as part of her French degree. No news from her for 2 weeks. Wife panicked when she read young fillies were being shipped to Morocco to fill the Harems. Contacted the police who contacted Interpol who contacted her bank who informed us that her debit card spend pattern was normal and in the same locations. Typical early twenties lass forgot to phone her Mum.

A nice touch from HSBC though. I have been invited to contact and dine with their visiting representatives here in BK and discuss improvements for expats.
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richard wrote: I have been invited to contact and dine with their visiting representatives here in BK and discuss improvements for expats.
Haven't we all! :laugh: :laugh:
I had the same cloning problem recently, smartly picked up by the bank before anyone even tried to use it. Don't ask me how. The warning is all very well, but I don't think there's anything you can do to prevent it - I've never bought anything on line using my debit card and am very careful when using the ATM.
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Incidentally. The only debit card usage (3 times) at an ATM by in the last 6 months was at soi 80 old 711 and the ATM in the shop next door and that was in December 2011 and March 2012
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dtaai-maai wrote:
richard wrote: I have been invited to contact and dine with their visiting representatives here in BK and discuss improvements for expats.
Haven't we all! :laugh: :laugh:
I had the same cloning problem recently, smartly picked up by the bank before anyone even tried to use it. Don't ask me how. The warning is all very well, but I don't think there's anything you can do to prevent it - I've never bought anything on line using my debit card and am very careful when using the ATM.
Yes DTM done it before. They liked my bank balance but not my dress code :laugh: They also took a break to escort me down Cowboy and footed the bill for all and sundry :laugh: Sometimes I love my bankers (spelt with a capital W of course) :laugh:
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Damn, maybe I should say yes then... But I doubt my overdraft facility would qualify me for any more than KFC. :(
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Have you only used your cards at an ATM? What about using it when purchasing goods not on-line?
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Nope, not me. Cash once (sometimes twice) a month from my UK account via the ATM. Everything else is through my Thai salary/bank account.

And my numerous lottery wins.
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caller wrote:Have you only used your cards at an ATM? What about using it when purchasing goods not on-line?
On-line......credit card, yes but rarely



With my cards I always go on line and check if used
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I used that soi80 atm loads of times during that time period, will be watching my accounts online carefully.
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My card just got hit in Korea of all places, 5 times on the same day.
They managed to steal about £1,000 before the bank blocked the card.
I am always very careful and have no idea where or how this happened.
The bank is still investigating.
Scary stuff, now I am paranoid about using a card anywhere.
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