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I will soon be having the exterior of my house painted and all of the doors and windows are wood. What is the best brand of wood stain/wood preservative that is available locally? The sun obviously takes its toll and I would like to use products that are long lasting

It is my intention to buy all of the necessary materials and then employ local labor to actually do the painting and woodwork. :cheers:
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Bristolian wrote:I will soon be having the exterior of my house painted and all of the doors and windows are wood. What is the best brand of wood stain/wood preservative that is available locally? The sun obviously takes its toll and I would like to use products that are long lasting

It is my intention to buy all of the necessary materials and then employ local labor to actually do the painting and woodwork. :cheers:
I cant say that its the best, but the most popular brand seems to be TOA, all the big DIY chains stock it as well as in specialist paint shops.
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Thanks for the reply. I haven't tried TOA yet. I think that I must have tried a good number of brands and all with differing results. I have found it very difficult to get a matt finish although the label clearly states matt finish. 

Unless anyone else suggests something that they have had good success with, I think that I will try a small test area first with TOA. Paints and wood treatments are so expensive if you make a mistake in colour or finish

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Beger wood stain, excellent if surfaces are prepared properly and applied properly, 4-5 coats will last a couple of years in direct sunlight, more if shaded.
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Thanks you make am excellent point on the prep and on the number of coats required in strong sunlight. 

One side of my home is shaded, for a large part by trees and is not looking so bad. After only 18 months the sides that are cooked each day are in need of some real TLC

I have followed the work on a few homes where the owner has paid for re "varnishing or wood treatment"  of the wooden exterior (sorry but I'm not sure of the correct term) but most never exceed 2 coats of wood treatment and probably only one if the owner is not watching. 

I really love the look of real wood and, in my mind, it enhances the whole appeal and look of a modern Thai designed home. 

In my mind the maintenance cost of real wood is worth every cent, penny or baht when you look at the alternatives 

Many years ago I lived in the UK and was very happy with Cuprinol (maybe wrong spelling) or Ronseal. Does anyone know if these are available locally. 

Of course the British weather does not exactly provide any confidence that they will work equally as well in the LOS ( Land of Sunshine ) :thanks:
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Cuprinol is available in Home Pro (or at least is was the last time I bought some, about 3 yrs ago). I think Ronseal is there too.
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Winkie wrote:Cuprinol is available in Home Pro (or at least is was the last time I bought some, about 3 yrs ago). I think Ronseal is there too.
As long as they are formulated for the weather in Thailand - it's a great deal different here than in say the UK!!
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Thanks for the advice. I'll take a look in Home Pro next weekend and if either Cuprinol or Ronseal are available I will need to check the instructions, on the can, carefully.

Maybe they are not suitable for strong sun but they are for sure formulated for the wind and rain in the UK :D
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Bristolian wrote:Thanks for the advice. I'll take a look in Home Pro next weekend and if either Cuprinol or Ronseal are available I will need to check the instructions, on the can, carefully.

Maybe they are not suitable for strong sun but they are for sure formulated for the wind and rain in the UK :D
If I remember well (which often I do not!), the Cuprinol was in a Thai Language tin, so hopefully is suitable for use here
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If I remember well (which often I do not!), the Cuprinol was in a Thai Language tin, so hopefully is suitable for use here
Thanks Winkie. I agree that a Thai language label should at least mean that Cuprinol have considered the Thai market and therefore I would hope that it is suitable. It also means that whilst I have no chance to read the label at least the decorator will be able to and that is more important.

I was very lucky to find a good builder who is skilful and does not overcharge. He involves his whole family, both close and extended, in the business and they will be happy to undertake the outside painting and wood treatment. I was told a long time ago that if you find a good builder who charges reasonably than hang on to him....They are like gold dust :cheers:
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Bristolian wrote:
If I remember well (which often I do not!), the Cuprinol was in a Thai Language tin, so hopefully is suitable for use here
Thanks Winkie. I agree that a Thai language label should at least mean that Cuprinol have considered the Thai market and therefore I would hope that it is suitable. It also means that whilst I have no chance to read the label at least the decorator will be able to and that is more important.

I was very lucky to find a good builder who is skilful and does not overcharge. He involves his whole family, both close and extended, in the business and they will be happy to undertake the outside painting and wood treatment. I was told a long time ago that if you find a good builder who charges reasonably than hang on to him....They are like gold dust :cheers:
Have you asked him what he recommends?
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Have you asked him what he recommends?
He recommended the same product that the original builder used; it’s called “Bondex satin finish wood stain”. I’m not familiar with the brand but from the photo that I took of the can, the instructions etc. are in English.

My problems with it are that although it claims to be satin finish it actually has a high gloss finish. Also, after re staining with this product, some 18 months ago, it is already looking very weather beaten in places where it is in direct sunlight. Obviously I do not expect it to last forever but given that it was given 3 coats and the preparation was good I would have hoped that it would have lasted longer. Maybe my expectations are too high and 18 months – 2 years is about right.

This is the first time that I have had a property in Thailand with so much wood. I obviously want the woodwork to look good but also to ensure that it is protected, to avoid much bigger costs later in replacement.

Am I expecting too much and is 18 months – 2 years the norm before having to re varnish/stain?
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