Married and a bun in the oven

[Roel]

intense anger

Be careful.

[advocate]

I really hope it works out for the couple. There are many successfull marriages here with Thai and falangs, myself included.

Having said that, if you buy assets before marriage in your home country you would put them in your own name, be it real estate or vehicles. If the partner objects to that, then you likely have a problem in that she is only with you for the money.

In most cases we are talking about a man's life savings, and being prudent should not be seen as a character flaw, or lack of trust.

What happens if the gf dies in a road accident? You are most likely going to be told to leave by the relatives who want to claim their inheritance. If you are not on title they can show up with the police and tell you to get out w/o notice. Better to have property in your name.

[Frank Hovis]

Sorry Frank you are a bit out of date I think

An accusation leveled at me many times, from haircuts to music to dancing ability. 'Old Fashioned' is often tacked on the end too.

[Big Boy]

What happens if the gf dies in a road accident? You are most likely going to be told to leave by the relatives who want to claim their inheritance. If you are not on title they can show up with the police and tell you to get out w/o notice. Better to have property in your name.

Wouldn't a will cover this?

[richard]

After all would you buy a car without researching reviews and gathering good and bad opinions?

No, and I wouldn't buy the car, drive it round for a few months and then start doing my research. And if it was working well and I was perfectly happy with it, I wouldn't be too chuffed to hear it was likely to fall apart in a couple of years, but never mind, I know a good lawyer who can get some of your money back for you.

I appreciate your valuable input to the topic

MODS, please shut this topic now as all USEFUL feedback has been received. The residue now seems trivial trash which is not relevant to the OP post. Sad really

[advocate]

What happens if the gf dies in a road accident? You are most likely going to be told to leave by the relatives who want to claim their inheritance. If you are not on title they can show up with the police and tell you to get out w/o notice. Better to have property in your name.

Wouldn't a will cover this?

Wills can be contested. In most countries there are also probate fees and court costs. Your local copper is not going to bother reading the will, and will side with the Thais. If the property is not in your name and the heirs apparent under Thai law want you out, you will have to go to court. Fighting with Thais over property can be very bad for your health.

[advocate]

My apologies if I have offended anyone here. Not my intent.

[Big Boy]

OK, in my case, if my wife should die first, we intend leaving our property to my (Thai) son, with a clause that I should be permitted to live there until death. We haven't done it yet - would that suffice?

[advocate]

OK, in my case, if my wife should die first, we intend leaving our property to my (Thai) son, with a clause that I should be permitted to live there until death. We haven't done it yet - would that suffice?

That can be done with a will. In England you would want a life tenancy with your son as the remainderman. I assume the property is in your wifes name so it would be her will.

Rules are different here and you may want to form a trust, where you hold the property in trust for your son, who is the beneficial owner.

Depending on circumstances, such as age, finances, etc, you may want to put the property in your son's name earlier, rather than have it pass through a will.

[Big Boy]

Thanks for that - food for thought.

Sorry richard, I've stolen your thread for a few minutes

[richard]

No Probs BB

The thread has served it's useful purpose for me

[Dannie Boy]

No Probs BB

The thread has served it's useful purpose for me

I think that for every wise one amongst us, there are as many or more who have fallen into the trap of falling in love with the first girl they meet. It is as much by luck as judgement that my wife is one of the most honest and decent people you could find, but I'd be the first to admit that I could so easily have picked the wrong one. If nothing else, hopefully this thread will have raised concerns with those just starting on their journey to tread carefully.

[Takiap]

Don't mean to hijack this thread, but just a few points....


Firstly, I agree 100% with BB. There are so many bad experiences reported, but very few good ones. As far as life in the west is concerned, one of my brothers (now deceased) was/is the only person I know who never went through a divorce. Every single friend I had in SA, as well as in the UK has been through a divorce. In fact, it's the reason why I was so determined to never get married. However, I met my current wife, and despite the advice I got from every single person I knew, our marriage has lasted. Yes, we've had our up and downs, but with a bit of work, those bumps in the road were overcome. To be honest, I actually admire my wife for still being with me. After all, marrying me didn't make her wealthy, it didn't result in a free ride for her family either. To be 100% truthful, her family have never asked for even one baht. Also, while I don't really have many friends who have married Thai women, those that I do have are all very happy.

So Richard, my advice to your friend would be........Go for it!. Sure, a bit of common sense is in order, but then again, you have said he isn't an idiot. The most difficult part of my marriage was the first year or two. My wife was here, I was in the UK, and I had every man and his dog telling me she was having a ball with every Farang on the planet. In truth however, she was hard at work improving her educational qualifications. She's stood by me through thick and thin, and I'm sure some forum member will remember my very early posts on the forum, where circumstances had taken a dive, there wasn't even money to complete our house. I wonder how many western women would have been willing to live in a half finished home with bugger all windows or doors? (much more economical than aircon though )


I only word of warning I would give Richard's mate, is that his extended family might end up driving him up the wall, maybe not with really important things, but with more trivial matters. For example, try explaining to grandmother that rice isn't the most nutritional food known to man. Try explaining that it's better to throw empty wrappers in the bin straight away rather than leaving them where they are for a few hours.

In a nutshell Richard, if your friend can handle a bit of complete madness from time to time, he should be okay.

[richard]

Takiap

[advocate]

OK, in my case, if my wife should die first, we intend leaving our property to my (Thai) son, with a clause that I should be permitted to live there until death. We haven't done it yet - would that suffice?

In the west, wills can be revocable or irrevocable. Irrevocable means the will cannot be changed, ever. If you want to be absolutely sure your son recieves his inheritance then you want a irrevocable will.

Anything can happen, and there have been cases where one partner remarries after the death of the other and has more children, and thereafter the inheritance is split or changed in a manner not originally intended by the deceased partner. Or the surviving partner has a change of heart and decides not to leave all to the original beneficiary. A new marriage also revokes any previously revocable will.

I am not a Thai lawyer, and not sure if irrevocable wills are legal here, but a competant Thai lawyer can advise.