The eBay thread

[pharvey]

Some good pointers there AQ. Certain items I'll also have delivered to the UK for later pick-up or a visit from friends/family.

[lomuamart]

Thanks for the replies. I'm not thinking about this as a business but just as a one-off purchase that is non-negotiable but a great deal as I've seen this club in BKK at 3 times the price. I'd trust the seller as they're not an individual but more a golf warehouse type outfit that want to clear stock and they have lots of golf items all over ebay. Their rating is 99.8%.
I should have looked at ebay and Paypal as separate entities rather than associated companies so pharvey's comment about giving Paypal my banking address in the UK and the seller on ebay my Thai address makes perfect sense.
I'll try it - maybe not right away as I reckon this club could come down in value all over the world as the manufacturer brings in a "new, better, brighter version" around Dec/Jan. They all do. So, I'll wait a bit but be prepared.
Again, many thanks for the advice.

[buksida]

I've bought a few things on eBay over the years ranging from camera lenses to Wii games - all have arrived with no problems ... up until now.

The last thing I ordered was a dive light from Hong Kong. This was a month ago and it hasn't arrived so must have been stolen/seized by Thai customs.

Do I just write off the purchase or is there anything I can do? My faith in buying from eBay whilst in Thailand has just evaporated.

[blue05]

get in touch with the seller, it is thier responsibility to get the goods to you, also put a claim in on paypal as you have 45 days to do so

[Albie Quick]

Thought I'd bring everyone up to date with Ebay fees as I've just had my bill for the sale of a guitar which I sold on EBay last month whilst in the UK.

Firstly, I was notified that a payment had been made from my Paypal account to the account of EBay Europe S.A.r.l. I didn't recognise the transaction, so I queried it with Paypal, only to receive a stock email saying they were not treating it as fraudulent. I subsequently found out that this is the way EBay now recover their 'seller's fee'.

I went on EBay's website and trawled through their pages of information but nowhere could I find any reference to the actual percentage charges which they make on the sale of an item. The closest I could find stated that a 'final value fee will be calculated'. Not very informative!

For the information of anyone thinking of selling an item, the fees of EBay Europe are as follows:

In insertion fee which can vary depending on whether you have a business contract, how many photos you want to include in your advert or whether they are offering a free promotion. Mine was around £8.

They also charge 10% of the total amount received by the seller (including the p&p charge).

Hope this helps.

[pitsch]

Twice the bought items did not arrive in thailand. When I told this to the sellers both of them sent it again free of charge and then I received it.

[Siani]

With ebay and buying items from another country...you normally are paying for a signed for delivery. If the goods do not arrive within a certain period of time, you can make a claim back via papal who well ask the seller for proof of postage, if they cannot give this, papal will withdraw their money, either from their papal account our their bank. No ivory or knives etc....read the restrictions. If you want to see what thai things are selling....type in thai...search ...them go too completed listings on left of the page.....you will see hundreds of thngs from fishermans pants,silk,jewels etc

[buksida]

One of those crazy coincidences - it arrived yesterday after the seller offered a refund!

Should have expected Thailand's 2 week country shutdown for Songkran to screw up the postal system.

Now then, if I order a GoPro at 40% less than you have to pay in Thailand will it get seized/taxed?

[buksida]

Ok, here is my dilemma ...

GoPro HERO3 Silver Edition - UK Cost: 279 GBP (12,309 THB)
GoPro HERO3 Silver Edition - Duty Free Cost: 329 Euro (12,362 THB)
GoPro HERO3 Silver Edition - Thailand Cost: 15,840 THB
GoPro HERO3 Silver Edition - eBay from Hong Kong: $273 AUD (8,114 THB)

If I order this online what is the maximum they can shaft me for in import taxes and fees?

[tuktukmike]

As someone posted earlier many sellers will not post to Thailand even some that say they post worldwide, I got over this problem by using a courier service.
I just won my 3rd citronic thames 2 twindeck unit and as with the others I simply use a courier service, the seller had it listed as pick up only.
Price for this service is not bad either, the unit weighs 31kilo is about 3ft 6ins wide and about 2ft across.

The cost door to door is only £118.00 and will be delivered in 5 days.

Sweet.

Ttm

[Siani]

They also charge 10% of the total amount received by the seller (including the p&p charge).

Hope this helps.

eBay do not take a percentage of the shipping/postal cost. I went on "Live Chat" with an eBay advisor yesterday to confirm it. So not true

[Albie Quick]

Interesting to hear that EBay say they don't include the p&p when calculating the seller's fee. They certainly did on my sale! To confirm, I've just put my transaction through the EBay calculating system..... £185 sale price.....£20 p&p...........Calculated seller's fee....£20.50.

I can only assume that they treat domestic shipping within the UK differently.

[J.J.B.]

Thought I'd bring everyone up to date with Ebay fees as I've just had my bill for the sale of a guitar which I sold on EBay last month whilst in the UK.

I went on EBay's website and trawled through their pages of information but nowhere could I find any reference to the actual percentage charges which they make on the sale of an item. The closest I could find stated that a 'final value fee will be calculated'. Not very informative!

This page didn't take very long to find. I've felt let down by high fees in the past and the way they calculate them doesn't make mich logical sense to me but it all appears to be how you set-up your initial auction. Setting a reserve or having a starting bid at higher than 99p all seem to carry risk.

http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/sell/fees.html#fees

[Siani]

Interesting to hear that EBay say they don't include the p&p when calculating the seller's fee. They certainly did on my sale! To confirm, I've just put my transaction through the EBay calculating system..... £185 sale price.....£20 p&p...........Calculated seller's fee....£20.50.

I can only assume that they treat domestic shipping within the UK differently.

Yes, it does work out differently, depending on how you list it, also how many pictures, features etc.
The best way to list in my book, is to start listing low (0.99p) UK, run the auction for 7 or 14 days. If you do not get bidders bidding up to what you want, you can pull the auction off 24 hours before the end...the only thing you must remember to do it, as one second over the 24 hours and the sale will go through" A bit risky, but I have done it a few times. Also you can put a reserve with a low starting bid. If you really want to keep cost down, list on free listing days, then they only charge you for the selling fee.

Here is a breakdown...a bit long winded! I very often use "fixed price" with an option to the bidder to make you a "best offer" for your consideration.
Personally I think eBay is very good, very often I have got more than I thought, so don't mind paying the fees. Also if you compare the fees with UK auction houses they are better. UK auction houses charge a buyers AND a sellers fee!

Fees for listing an item
When you list an item on eBay, you'll be charged a non-refundable insertion fee. You can also choose to pay for optional listing features that help increase your chances of a sale. If your item sells, you'll be charged a final value fee.

eBay fees include 15% VAT for EU residents. Invoices sent to you will quote fees with VAT included. Read all the eBay fees terms and conditions and learn more about paying your eBay fees.

How do I know what the insertion fee will be?

Your insertion fee depends on the category you list in, the listing format, the starting price (if it's an auction-style listing), and whether you're a private or a business seller. Please see:

Insertion fees for private sellers
Insertion fees for business sellers
Insertion fees for eBay Motors
Insertion fees for Classified Ads

Insertion fees will be displayed when you list your item.

Relisting an item

If your item doesn't sell, you may be able to relist it for free. Learn more about insertion fee credits for relisting your item.

Auction-style listing

All (except below)

£0.01 - £0.99

Free** or £0.10


£1.00 - £4.99

£0.15

£5.00 - £14.99

£0.25

£15.00 - £29.99

£0.50

£30.00 - £99.99

£1.00

£100+

£1.30

Media

£0.01 - ££0.99

Free** or £0.05

£1.00 or more

£0.10

Property

Any price

£35.00


Motors

Any price

£10.00


Fixed price listing

All

All

£0.40

Media

All

£0.20

Property

All

£35.00



Motors

All

£10.00



Classified Ad

Motors

All

£14.99

Business, Office and Industrial

All

£9.99

Property

All

£35.00

Hotels and Travel

All

£15.00


*Business sellers without an eBay shop

**Private sellers can list up to 100 listings free



Final value fees


Auction-style and Buy it now final value fees




Category

Final selling price


Final value fee




All categories including Media-related and Technology-related, except those listed below

£0.01 or more

10% of the final selling price (up to a maxmum of £75)



Property

£0.01 or more

No fee



The final value fee for a Buy it now listing with multiple items is calculated per item sold based on the final selling price of the item.



Remember that if your item doesn't sell, you don't pay a final value fee. You'll have the option of relisting your item, and if it sells, you could be eligible for a credit on the insertion fee.

'Media-related' refers to items listed within the following categories:

Books, comics & magazines (excluding the Accessories sub-category)
DVDs, Films & TV (excluding the Accessories/Storage, Film memorabilia and TV memorabilia sub-categories)
Games sub-category of Video Games & Consoles (doesn't apply to the other sub-categories of Video Games & Consoles)
Music (excluding Music memorabilia and Accessories/Storage sub-categories)


'Technology-related' refers to items listed within the following categories:

Mobile Phones & Communication
Computers/Tablets & Networking
Sound & Vision
Cameras & Photography

[tuktukmike]

Just had a call from shipping company and my unit will be delivered tomorrow before 3pm, this was collected friday afternoon from Maidenhead.

There is of course the standard 40% import duty (cif) but happy enough and will continue to buy on e bay.

Ttm