not quite the tournament we were all hoping for in terms of good rugby unless you are kiwi of course.
Argentina only a point behind...they have really improved since last week
The Rugby Thread
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ridgeydidge.au
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thanks for the heads up on the dubious honour of winning by tipping against my own team PHarvey.
not quite the tournament we were all hoping for in terms of good rugby unless you are kiwi of course.
Argentina only a point behind...they have really improved since last week
not quite the tournament we were all hoping for in terms of good rugby unless you are kiwi of course.
Argentina only a point behind...they have really improved since last week
Re: The Rugby Thread
Just for a laugh
At Last a Rational explanation of the Game:
It is largely unknown to players and followers of the modern game that rugby started off purely as a contest for forwards in opposition in line-outs, scrums, rucks and mauls. This pitted eight men of statuesque physique, supreme fitness and superior intelligence in packs against one another. In those days, the winner was the pack that won the most set pieces. The debasement of the game began when backs were introduced. This occurred because a major problem was where to locate the next scrum or line-out. Selecting positions on the ground for these had become a constant source of friction and even violence.
The problem was resolved by employing forward rejects, men of small stature and limited intelligence, to run aimlessly around within the field of play. Following a set piece, the ball would be thrown to one of them, who would establish the next location either by dropping it or by throwing it to another reject for dropping. Very occasionally, a third reject would receive the ball before it would be dropped, and crowds would wildly cheer on these rare occasions. Initially these additional players were entirely disorganized but with the passing of time they adopted set positions.
For instance, take the half-back. He was usually one of the smallest and least intelligent of the backs whose role was simply to accept the ball from a forward and to pass it on to one of the other rejects who would drop it, providing the new location for the forwards to compete. He could easily (given his general size) have been called a quarter forward or a ball monkey but then tolerance and compassion are the keys to forward play and the present euphemism was decided on.
The five-eighth plays next to the half-back and his role is essentially the same except that when pressured, he usually panics and kicks the ball. Normally, he is somewhat taller and slightly better built than the half-back and hence his name. One-eighth less and he would have been a half-back, three-eighths more and he might well have qualified to become a forward.
The centres were opportunists who had no expertise but wanted to share in the glamour associated with forward packs. After repeated supplication to the forwards for a role in the game they would be told to get out in the middle of the field and wait for instructions. Thus, when asked where they played, they would reply "in the centre". And they remain to this day, parasites and scroungers who mostly work as lawyers or used car dealers.
You may ask, why wingers? The answer is simple. Because these were players who had very little ability and were the lowest in the backline pecking order, they were placed as far away from the ball as possible. Consequently, and because the inside backs were so diligent in their assigned role of dropping the ball whenever they received it, the main contribution to the game made by the winger was not to get involved. Their instructions were to run away as quickly as possible whenever trouble appeared, and to avoid tackles at all costs. The fact that the game was organised so that the wingers didn't get to touch the ball led to an incessant flow of complaints from them and eventually the apt description "whingers" was applied. Even though the "h" dropped off over the years, the whingeing itself unfortunately has not.
Lastly, the full-back. This was the position given to the worst handler, the person least able to accept or pass the ball, someone who was always in the way. The name arose because the forwards would understandably become infuriated by the poor play invariably demonstrated by that person, and call out "send that fool back". He would then be relegated well out of everyone's way to the rear of the field. So there you have it. Let's return to the glory days of a contest between two packs of eight men of statuesque physique, supreme fitness and superior intelligence.
The rest can go off to where they will be happier – playing soccer.
At Last a Rational explanation of the Game:
It is largely unknown to players and followers of the modern game that rugby started off purely as a contest for forwards in opposition in line-outs, scrums, rucks and mauls. This pitted eight men of statuesque physique, supreme fitness and superior intelligence in packs against one another. In those days, the winner was the pack that won the most set pieces. The debasement of the game began when backs were introduced. This occurred because a major problem was where to locate the next scrum or line-out. Selecting positions on the ground for these had become a constant source of friction and even violence.
The problem was resolved by employing forward rejects, men of small stature and limited intelligence, to run aimlessly around within the field of play. Following a set piece, the ball would be thrown to one of them, who would establish the next location either by dropping it or by throwing it to another reject for dropping. Very occasionally, a third reject would receive the ball before it would be dropped, and crowds would wildly cheer on these rare occasions. Initially these additional players were entirely disorganized but with the passing of time they adopted set positions.
For instance, take the half-back. He was usually one of the smallest and least intelligent of the backs whose role was simply to accept the ball from a forward and to pass it on to one of the other rejects who would drop it, providing the new location for the forwards to compete. He could easily (given his general size) have been called a quarter forward or a ball monkey but then tolerance and compassion are the keys to forward play and the present euphemism was decided on.
The five-eighth plays next to the half-back and his role is essentially the same except that when pressured, he usually panics and kicks the ball. Normally, he is somewhat taller and slightly better built than the half-back and hence his name. One-eighth less and he would have been a half-back, three-eighths more and he might well have qualified to become a forward.
The centres were opportunists who had no expertise but wanted to share in the glamour associated with forward packs. After repeated supplication to the forwards for a role in the game they would be told to get out in the middle of the field and wait for instructions. Thus, when asked where they played, they would reply "in the centre". And they remain to this day, parasites and scroungers who mostly work as lawyers or used car dealers.
You may ask, why wingers? The answer is simple. Because these were players who had very little ability and were the lowest in the backline pecking order, they were placed as far away from the ball as possible. Consequently, and because the inside backs were so diligent in their assigned role of dropping the ball whenever they received it, the main contribution to the game made by the winger was not to get involved. Their instructions were to run away as quickly as possible whenever trouble appeared, and to avoid tackles at all costs. The fact that the game was organised so that the wingers didn't get to touch the ball led to an incessant flow of complaints from them and eventually the apt description "whingers" was applied. Even though the "h" dropped off over the years, the whingeing itself unfortunately has not.
Lastly, the full-back. This was the position given to the worst handler, the person least able to accept or pass the ball, someone who was always in the way. The name arose because the forwards would understandably become infuriated by the poor play invariably demonstrated by that person, and call out "send that fool back". He would then be relegated well out of everyone's way to the rear of the field. So there you have it. Let's return to the glory days of a contest between two packs of eight men of statuesque physique, supreme fitness and superior intelligence.
The rest can go off to where they will be happier – playing soccer.
RICHARD OF LOXLEY
It’s none of my business what people say and think of me. I am what I am and do what I do. I expect nothing and accept everything. It makes life so much easier.
It’s none of my business what people say and think of me. I am what I am and do what I do. I expect nothing and accept everything. It makes life so much easier.
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pharvey
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^ Love it Richard!! 
The Blackness win The Championship Title....
BUT.... What a game - absolutely superb, and a great advert for rugby.
South Africa 27 vs New Zealand 38
9 tries in all, 5 to the AB's, 4 to the Boks
..... absolutely end to end classic and one of the best games I've seen in a long time. Congrats to both sides for their 100% commitment and passion.
The AB's again show why they are the No. 1 team in the world with another unbeaten run in the Championship........ still the team to beat.
Also a special mention for referee Nigel Owens who truly allowed the game to flow, reffed fairly and accurately, contributing massively to the great specticle it was........ of course I'm somewhat biased as he's Welsh!!
The Blackness win The Championship Title....
BUT.... What a game - absolutely superb, and a great advert for rugby.
South Africa 27 vs New Zealand 38
9 tries in all, 5 to the AB's, 4 to the Boks
..... absolutely end to end classic and one of the best games I've seen in a long time. Congrats to both sides for their 100% commitment and passion.The AB's again show why they are the No. 1 team in the world with another unbeaten run in the Championship........ still the team to beat.
Also a special mention for referee Nigel Owens who truly allowed the game to flow, reffed fairly and accurately, contributing massively to the great specticle it was........ of course I'm somewhat biased as he's Welsh!!
"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things" - Yma o Hyd.
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Just watched this fantastic game.I've always liked the way Nigel Owens referees a match - no nonsense, but a light touch and a sense of humour. Something the commentators said (can't remember what, something about Ellis Park a fortnight ago and apologies, but I never found the reference...) made me look him up, and I found this:
I think I like him even more! Has anyone read it?Halftime … the Nigel Owens autobiography
Nigel Owens is a world class, openly gay rugby referee from Wales. In this warm, funny and painfully honest autobiography, he speaks openly about his struggle to accept himself for who he was, resulting in attempted suicide, bulimia and steroid addiction. Owens also recounts many amusing incidents from rugby matches, foreign trips and his off-field career as an entertainer.
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Arrived in HH last month and not up to speed with all the sports bars as yet. Can anyone suggest a good one to watch the ABs/England game this Saturday?
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Absolutely heartbreaking for Ireland... and what a superb performance - huge respect for the team!!
The "Blackness" take it at the death with a last gasp try in injury time - Ireland 22 vs 24 New Zealand. Sexton I think kicked the ball away a little too much, but you can't point the finger.....
I for one firmly believe Ireland deserved the win, but what can you say about the AB's? The first team in the modern era to go a full year unbeaten.... quite a record 14 games, 14 wins.......
Congrats to both teams...... a far more enjoyable spectacle than the absolutely dire 90 mins that was Wales vs Tonga!!
The "Blackness" take it at the death with a last gasp try in injury time - Ireland 22 vs 24 New Zealand. Sexton I think kicked the ball away a little too much, but you can't point the finger.....
I for one firmly believe Ireland deserved the win, but what can you say about the AB's? The first team in the modern era to go a full year unbeaten.... quite a record 14 games, 14 wins.......
Congrats to both teams...... a far more enjoyable spectacle than the absolutely dire 90 mins that was Wales vs Tonga!!
"Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things" - Yma o Hyd.
Re: The Rugby Thread
I knew it was all up when Sexton missed that kick with not long to go. The All Blacks never give up. I was in Australia at the time watching it live streaming online, the bloody connection failed as the All Blacks got the ball in their 22, right at the death, but it was no surprise when I reconnected a couple of minutes later to discover they'd won. I confess to not supporting either team, but I felt so sorry for Ireland. That team would have been immortalized, don't forget they still talk about the Munster victory in Ireland and this would have been a step up from that. What a way for BOD to finish his career? Sadly not to be, but a fantastic display by the Irish and also mentally by the All Black don't forget. Can't wait for the 6 Nations and Super 15, the EPL is driving me nuts!pharvey wrote:Absolutely heartbreaking for Ireland... and what a superb performance - huge respect for the team!!
The "Blackness" take it at the death with a last gasp try in injury time - Ireland 22 vs 24 New Zealand. Sexton I think kicked the ball away a little too much, but you can't point the finger.....
I for one firmly believe Ireland deserved the win, but what can you say about the AB's? The first team in the modern era to go a full year unbeaten.... quite a record 14 games, 14 wins.......
Congrats to both teams...... a far more enjoyable spectacle than the absolutely dire 90 mins that was Wales vs Tonga!!
Re: The Rugby Thread
G'day all you rugby fans. I've recently joined the HH forum and as a fanatical rugby union fan I was very pleased to find this thread. I'm originally English so England are my number one team, but for 5 years, prior to moving to HH 18 months ago, I lived in Australia, so they are my number two. I am a supporter and previous member and season ticket holder at both Bath in the UK and the Queensland Reds in Australia, when I resided in those respective places. I shall be slowly reading through all the posts, but am pleased to see you run a league using Superbru, where I also run a league for other rugby supporting friends. I assume this will continue when the 6 Nations and Super 15 commences and I would love to join in. I'm always keen to meet up with other rugby fans to watch matches live and recently have watched live matches, with sound, in El Murphy's and Buckley's in town and Capt. Doug's in Khao Takiab and can recommend all three as rugby friendly venues. It would be good to get together somewhere with a few of you when the 6 Nations starts. Stay in touch please.
Re: The Rugby Thread
No forum pool for the 6 nations Mr. Harvey?
RICHARD OF LOXLEY
It’s none of my business what people say and think of me. I am what I am and do what I do. I expect nothing and accept everything. It makes life so much easier.
It’s none of my business what people say and think of me. I am what I am and do what I do. I expect nothing and accept everything. It makes life so much easier.
Re: 2014 Six Nations
A bit late but I've started one anyway. Pete
http://www.superbru.com/sixnations/pool.php?p=11170264
Pool name: HHAD
Pool code: whomeery
http://www.superbru.com/sixnations/pool.php?p=11170264
Pool name: HHAD
Pool code: whomeery
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Applied captain good luck
Woke up this morning breathing that's a good start to the day.
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Done
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applied
RICHARD OF LOXLEY
It’s none of my business what people say and think of me. I am what I am and do what I do. I expect nothing and accept everything. It makes life so much easier.
It’s none of my business what people say and think of me. I am what I am and do what I do. I expect nothing and accept everything. It makes life so much easier.
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Applied.
As I would have predicted France by 2, Wales by 8 & Ireland by 22, do I get to claim my maximum points start?? . . . . . . . thought not!
As I would have predicted France by 2, Wales by 8 & Ireland by 22, do I get to claim my maximum points start?? . . . . . . . thought not!
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Ps if we are low on numbers I could get a couple of extra players ?
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