WWII Bomb Explodes at Junk yard in Bang Khen

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TingTongJohn wrote:From the History Web page

On this day, Thailand, a Japanese puppet state, declares war on the Allies.

When war broke out in Europe in September 1939, Thailand declared its neutrality, much to the distress of France and England. Both European nations had colonies surrounding Thailand and hoped Thailand would support the Allied effort and prevent Japanese encroachment on their Pacific territory. But Thailand began moving in the opposite direction, creating a "friendship" with Japan and adding to its school textbooks a futuristic map of Thailand with a "Greater Thailand" encroaching on Chinese territory.

Thailand's first real conflict with the Allies came after the fall of France to the Germans and the creation of the puppet government at Vichy. Thailand saw this as an opportunity to redraw the borders of French Indochina. The Vichy government refused to accommodate the Thais, so Thai troops crossed into French Indochina and battled French troops. Japan interceded in the conflict on the side of the Thais, and used its political alliance with Germany to force Vichy France to cede 21,000 square miles to Thailand.

On December 8, 1941, the Japanese made an amphibious landing on the coast of Thailand, part of the comprehensive sweep of South Pacific islands that followed the bombing raid at Pearl Harbor, Hawaii. The Japanese had assistance, though: Thailand's prime minister, Lang Pipul, collaborated with the Japanese, embracing the Axis power's war goal of usurping territory in China and ruling over the South Pacific. Pipul wanted to partake in the spoils; toward that end, he declared war on the United States and England. In October, he took dictatorial control of Thailand and became a loyal puppet of the Japanese.
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Allied bombing raids on the Thai capital city of Bangkok began even before Thailand had declared war, since the Empire of Japan was using the country as a staging area for its invasions of both Malaya and Burma, with the agreement of the Thai government after Japan's successful invasion of the southeast Asian country. The first raid came on January 7, 1942, when Royal Air Force (RAF) aircraft flying from Rangoon, attacked military targets in the city.[1][2] The American Volunteer Group, together with seven No. 113 Squadron RAF and three No. 45 Squadron RAF Blenheim bombers, were involved in the first raid.[3] No. 113 Squadron's planes were piloted by No. 60 Squadron's air crew. The second night raid was carried out with 8 Blenheims on 24-25 January and included No. 60 Squadron RAF aircrew.[4] A final raid was made three days later by four Blenheims. This was the last raid by Blenheims until May or June 1945.[citation needed]

After Rangoon fell to the Japanese on March 7, heavy bombers, such as RAF and American Tenth Air Force B-24s, based in India and China, attacked Thailand.[5][6] The raids were carried out because Bangkok by then was a command centre for the Japanese on the South East Asian front. RAF and USAAF bombers carried out the raids as part of the Pacific campaigns. The bombers targeted installations useful to the occupying Japanese military, but the raids were also intended to pressure the government of Thai military strongman Plaek Pibulsongkram to abandon his unpopular alliance with Imperial Japan. The major targets were the newly completed Port of Bangkok and the Thai railway system. Raids by RAF, USAAF, and other Allied air forces continued with growing intensity from India and, after the liberation of Rangoon on May 3, 1945, from Rangoon up until the end of the war in August that year. Blenheim bombers and Mustangs operated out of Rangoon against Bangkok in this later phase of the bombing.[citation needed]

First B-29 Superfortress combat mission[edit]





B-29 Superfortress
In its first combat mission, the American B-29 Superfortress was used by the XX Bomber Command's 58th Air Division to strike targets in Bangkok, before it was deployed against the Japanese home islands.[7] The decision for using the B-29s to bomb Bangkok dated back to 1943 and was mentioned in a communique between US President Franklin D. Roosevelt and British Prime Minister Winston Churchill in which Roosevelt suggested that they be used to bomb the port and railways.[8]

On 5 June 1944, 98 B-29s led by the 58th's commander, General LaVerne Saunders, flew out from airfields in India to attack the Makasan railway yards in Bangkok. The raid was the longest distance mission to that date in the war. It was a 2,261-mile round trip. Only 77 of the B-29s made it to Bangkok, with 21 having had to return home because of various engine problems. Arriving at the Thai capital at about 11:00 am, the bombers found the target obscured by bad weather which in turn caused an element of confusion in the attack. The B-29s were meant to have dropped their bombs from between 22–25,000 feet altitude but instead did so from between 17–27,000 feet. Only 18 bombs hit their intended targets. The others destroyed a Japanese military hospital and damaged the Japanese secret police headquarters. On the return leg, 42 B-29s had to divert to other airfields because of a lack of fuel and five crashed on landing, although none were lost to enemy fire. Further raids were carried out by the Superfortresses against strategic targets in Bangkok

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Thank you very much - very interesting.
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BB - there is still evidence around of the japanese occupation of Thailand - although as others have rightly said many Thais don't even know that it happened. The powers that be don't like it to be known. In fact it was seen as more of an 'alliance' between Thailand and Japan. A bit of wheeling and dealing to save face, which resulted in Thailands' declaration of war on the UK. But as I understood it the official declaration of war on the US was taken there but not actually made. Perhaps others have more info on that?
The 'alliance' resulted in a sharing of the running of POW camps, with Thailand running the allied one in or near Bangkok which held expats who had chosen not to flee the scene.
One place you can see a memorial to the japanese occupation is on the road down to Ranong. Not far north of Ranong where the road runs alongside the narrow river separating Burma, and on the right hand side of the road as you go south. A large rock structure in a kind of layby. Across the road from it up on the hillside are the remains of a lookout post which is said to have been used by the Japanese to keep an eye on any Burmese who might try to cross the river there.
Also of interest to you might be a programme shown on BBC 4 on April 1st - 'Building Burmas Death Railway: Moving Half the Mountain'. A one hour long prog largely consisting of first hand accounts by British and Japanese officers with some film clips of work on the railway at the time.
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margaretcarnes wrote:But as I understood it the official declaration of war on the US was taken there but not actually made. Perhaps others have more info on that?
I remember looking into this a few years ago. There must be a thread on here somewhere that covers it.

In the meantime, the US Embassy in Bkk has a 'timeline' of US-Thai relations. They have this to say:
1942 January 25 Prime Minister Field Marshal Phibun signs a mutual defense pact with Japan and declares war against the United States and Britain. Seni Pramoj, the Thai Ambassador to Washington, refuses his government’s orders to deliver the declaration of war. The United States refrains from declaring war on Thailand.
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Thank you Mags, but I was quite aware of the Japanese occupation. It's the allied attacks that have come as the surprise.

I will watch that BBC4 documentary later today.
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WW2 bomb: Granny's narrow escape

Shomchin Janthachart says she was just moments away from being blown apart by a large World War II-era bomb which killed eight people at a scrap metal shop on Wednesday.
The 70-year-old, whose house is separated by just a narrow strip of land from the shop where the blast occurred, said she tried to warn workers of the imminent danger, but was ignored.
"When I saw those men carrying that object, I immediately knew that it was a bomb. You could definitely see that it was a bomb," Mrs Shomchin told the Bangkok Post.
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Seems this incident at the junk yard in BBK jolted a monk's conscience at a temple in Phitsanulok where the previous Abbot had been given a live 81mm mortar 20 years ago and had stored it in a glass cabinet for display in the sermon hall. Recent events are said to have stirred him about the safety of his monks and temple visitors and thus hurriedly called the bomb squad....much to the relief of the police.

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http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/local/4 ... rtar-token

I can just imagine after the junk yard explosion....."Oh yeah, reminds me to get something done about our mortar." :idea:

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Big Boy wrote:Thank you Mags, but I was quite aware of the Japanese occupation. It's the allied attacks that have come as the surprise.

I will watch that BBC4 documentary later today.
I guess this should have a thread of its own, but as others have wandered off:

Last week I took my Granddaughter to see the following museum in the northern city of Phrae. Sadly, she just could not comprehend a state of "war" with the Japanese, as she has a couple of little Japanese friends!

Anyway, an interesting little site and exibition. Some of it in English with many photos and artifacts.

http://www.bangkokpost.com/travel/26753 ... iewID=2458
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