Turning girls

[gasman71]

Hello,

Excuse me if this is posted in the wrong place or has been posted before. My question is how long does it take for a girl to turn from being a girl who works in a bar to being a bar girl?

In experiences fom the past I've seen a girl when she first started work and was a polite well mannered girl who works bar and within 2-3 months have come back to find her a hard drinking badly spoken bar girl on the take (this was in Bangkok though).

Now I'm seeing a girl who's been working bar for two years and I still can't decide if she's still a girl who's taken a wrong turn and there is still some chance of a future together or if she's a bar girl who is extremely good at acting.

What do others think? Is two years + of working bar enough to drive a girl to being a fully fledged bar girl?

[duan]

My own view is that it takes only a short period for the girl to turn certainly not more than six months.

[pookie]

My opinoin is..............
You can take the girl out of the bar, but you cant take the bar out of the girl (sad to say)


Pookie

[lomuamart]

Look at yourself and ask the same question.

[matthew80]

And what if she was a bar girl? Does that automatically exclude her from the possibility of a serious, commited, loving relationship? I not sure the label "bar girl" is an irrevocable condemnation.

[Hublet]

Not all Bar Girls (Ladies) are out to rip you off. Some or most are doing the job to get money for the family and don't have the education to get a good paying job. Some are in it to meet the right person. Unfortunately they start out with the right attitiude but are corrupted quickly by the stories they hear from other ladies. It is hard to tell if they are genuine or not, perhaps you could ask a friend of hers or ask around. This will help you decide. I know a few who do the job for the money only and wish upon wish to meet the right guy and get out of the industry.

[Burger]

gasman71 wrote:

What do others think? Is two years + of working bar enough to drive a girl to being a fully fledged bar girl?

It's not an exact science mate. Some are different to others, I know many a seasoned BG who has gone on to be a good wife.
Personally I think a lot depends on how you treat them/take care of them. Some blokes who come over here still treat them like BG's, too tight to give them a decent life and get all they deserve in return IMO.

If you're gonna have a serious relationship with a 2 year BG, then at least live with them long enough to make an informed judgement on their motives/character etc.

Burger

[gaijin]

Gasman71, go out and do the rounds of the nightclubs in any big city anywhere, including the UK and Aust., and what will you find? - Hard drinking, hard drug taking, badly spoken and badly behaved male and female patrons. Go and see the emergency wards of big city hospitals on a Friday and Saturday night, observe the psychotic “iceâ€

[Norseman]

Well said gaijin.
Not that I claim to be an expert on this, but I really don't think there are that many bargirls in Hua Hin who has been working as a bar girl for as long as 2 years.
Treat the ladies with respect guys.

[Burger]

Lomu wrote:

Look at yourself and ask the same question.

I like that, if it means what I think it does.
ie: Those of us who like going round the bars and having a bit of fun etc, do we change and become totally faithful once we settle down with a lady, ex-bar girl or otherwise ??
Not many do from the people I know (in fact not a single one), but of course we expect the ladies to change.
Hypocrits ain't we

Burger

[richard]

Well said Burger,

They do change but only if you change too. Only if a little bit

[thailooper]

Many posts refer to BG's as if they were from a different planet !! At least some of you realise that they are human and the majority of them are in the trade through no fault of their own. I haven't seen many posts referring to some of the "animals" these girls have to and the lies THEY have to listen to. Many of the men who take bar girls are married - cheating on their wives etc. Farangs over twice their size, sweating copious amounts of alcohol - and "we" expect them to be "nice", "polite" and "truthful" - DREAM ON !!!! Don't get me wrong - I was married when I had my first BG - so i'm not in a position to judge BG's. I now have many friends in "the business" and I understand the way they operate - the only job satisfaction for the majority of BG's is the possibility of escape - when the right farang comes along. Then the hope he's not lying !!!!

Back to the topic - how long does it take for a BG to change ? She'll change as soon as she can trust the old farang with the gut hanging out over his shorts and sweat running down the crack of his arse !! BG's don't latch on to us for our charming looks etc - of course they would prefer to have a younger man - but with the array of talent available in LOS, the can't trust the younger ones !!!

So guys (those of you who think BG's are low lifes !) - get off your moral high ground and take a good look at yourself !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ting-tong]

Thailooper. You said what i was thinking.

[Jankou]

I am a young adult near 27 (my mind 18 ) anyway I like to have a fun, if I say maybe quite much even I can't say that I am a better person than the bar girls because I have had quite good life and I have had many chances for a "really good life". I don't want to be naive but many of these girls didn't have a same opportunities than me/we. Somebody allready said that many of these girls waiting the right falang, I agreed. I think that if I fail at relationship with Bar girl, normally it's my fault. I take/am with some girl but still I go like a lunatic. I forget that that they have a feelings too, so maybe it's quite hard for them to trust for farangs because sometimes we give a wrong picture about us.

I am 100% sure that a biggest part of these girls can have a good long term relationship with a western and they don't have to chance anything, they only leave something behind. The biggest problem is the differences with two cultures and different habbits. Someday if I am a really serious with some bargirl/go go girl/seven eleven girl or any kind of girl, I have to think twice that am I ready to do everything for that relationship.

[DawnHRD]

Being a woman, I can't really see the situation in the same way as you guys - although I liked some of the answers given. I don't know too many bargirls anymore (I used to go out all the time & know lots more), but the ones I do know are decent girls who are trying to make a life for themselves and their families. Some of them also have boyfriends who divide their time between HH and their own countries and guess what? Gasp - they are faithful to those boyfriends!!

Now, of course, that's not all bg's, just the same as you can't say all farang men are cheating or all girls in "respectable jobs" are pure as the driven snow. I think one of the best lessons we can learn in LOS, indeed in life, is not to generalise & take each person on their own merits.