Minivan, bus and road accidents

[Big Boy]

No video for me

If it's the video I saw this morning on TV, IMHO (and I only watched it once, so I might have picked up the events wrongly) typical motorcyclist in this country (Thai or Farang) trying to fit through a gap too small to to fit through, rather than wait a few seconds.

[JamesWest]

well the bike was in the correct lane, and a truck was turning right blocking the whole street. the bike may have been going too fast and tried to thread the needle by moving out into opposite traffic and cliped another pickup ? and then burst into flames. must have had a full tank of gas and the fuel line torn open.

truck drivers in Thailand think big bikes are scooters and expect you to be able to stop and think nothing of forcing you off the road. common for cars to come up next to me in my lane and force me over. i give them the horn now.

looking at the video i don't think he tried to slow down very much. there is that period of total panic where bike drivers just freeze because they know it is too late. you see it in videos all the time.

at least the people around were there fast to help.

any flagmen working with the truck... maybe a construction site? sorry bad joke.

[Big Boy]

Driving a pick-up daily, I can assure you that motorcyclists try to squeeze through impossible gaps, and are often driving on my brakes. OK, there are some regular bike riders out there, but most have little road sense at all. It's all about to get worse again with many visitors hiring bikes, when they are not permitted to ride in their home country.

[STEVE G]

....the bike may have been going too fast....

There is always something happening in the road in Asia so if you go faster than you can stop easily, you're going too fast!

[caller]

The bike had more than ample time to see the lorry turning. If he didn't he shouldn't be on the road in any case. Rode like a moron and paid the consequences.

[dtaai-maai]

There is always something happening in the road in Asia so if you go faster than you can stop easily, you're going too fast!

That's a pretty good rule of thumb anywhere, but particularly here!

[crispernator]

That looks very painfull when i saw him running out of the flames on fire ,lucky people helped him i think, looks like he thought he could get around the back of the trailer but the pickup was there as well at the same time ,ive seen some dashcam footage of thailand driving and it is a bit concerning most of it just stupid driving ,no care or just inatention to whats going on ,nope ill take that back it was all stupid driving .

[Frank Hovis]

Trying very hard to get that elusive #1 spot.

Eight Dead & Twenty Eight Injured.

http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/general ... ed-corpses

Bangkok Post - Eight people, including the driver, were killed and 28 others injured, 19 seriously, when a double-decker tour bus crashed into a concrete barrier at the "curve of a hundred corpses" in Kanchanaburi’s Si Sawat district on Sunday.
The accident happened on Si Sawat-Srinakarin Dam Road at Tabtao downhill curve in tambon Tha Kradan, said police who were alerted at around 11.20am.
The tour bus, carrying 40 passengers, failed to negotiate the sharp curve, causing it to hit the cement barrier and the mountain before overturned, police said.
Rescuers worked furiously to retrieve the bodies of the dead and injured passengers trapped in the wreckage of the bus. All were rushed to a nearby hospital.
A police investigation showed that the bus, carrying employees from W&H Film Co in Samut Sakhon's Krathum Baen district who were on a rafting trip to Si Sawat in Kanchanaburi for the long holiday, was on the way back home when it hit the concrete barrier.
Police believed the driver might not have been familiar with the route and lost control of the bus.
Locals said there were frequent road accicdents at Tabtao curve. It was locally known as the "curve of a hundred corpses".

[Frank Hovis]

Yet again

http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/general ... into-ditch

Bangkok Post - Twenty-two people, mainly Sri Lankan tourists, were hurt when their tour bus overturned into a ditch in Ratchaburi’s Photharam district on Thursday afternoon.

Vorachot Kraisri, the driver of another tour bus, told police there were four coaches taking over 100 Sri Lankans to the floating market in Damnoen Saduak district. The buses were heading to Nakhon Pathom when the one driven by Boonma Nachaikham crashed.
Mr Boonma, 38, tried to overtake a 10-wheeled truck and veered off the road, said Mr Vorachot, whose bus was following immediately behind. Mr Vorachot stopped to assist victims and alert police. Investigators planned to question Mr Boonma.

"following immediately behind" I think we all know that means exactly what it says, it's probably more luck than good judgement that the following bus didn't smash into the first.

[crispernator]

Maybe someone can help me here ,i have just looked at the two previous posts about bus crashes ,how or why does this happen ,is it bad vehicles ,bad drivers, speed, bad road conditions or what ? I took a bus from bangkok to kanchanaburi and i must admit it should have been retired a few years ago but this old guy was driving it and maybe it was the bus he started driving with the company 30 years ago ,the bus back to bangkok was pretty good farly modern and was a pleasant trip .
I look at the last post and think how did it end up in the ditch the one before i think how did he go through the concrete barriers i thought they were designed to stop this .

[hhfarang]

how or why does this happen ,is it bad vehicles ,bad drivers, speed, bad road conditions or what ?

Any given incident can be a combination of any or all of the above...

[Nereus]

Pick-up overturns; 4 Cambodians killed, 20 injured

http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/general ... 20-injured

PRACHIN BURI - Four Cambodian people were killed and 20 others injured when a pick-up truck overturned on Highway 359 in Kabin Buri district early Sunday, police said.

Pol Capt Sahawat Dathong, the duty officer at Wang Takhian police station, said the accident occurred at about 5am between kilometre markers 31-32 near Ban Non in tambon Wang Tachang of Krabin Buri district.

The pick-up truck was taking 27 people, all of them Cambodian migrant workers and their children, from Bangkok and Chon Buri to the Cambodian border. The workers, who had been laid off jobs, hired the vehicle to take them to Sa Kaeo province to cross the border to their home country.

Witnesses told police that they heard a loud noise, probably from the burst of a tyre. The pick-up suddenly swerved and overturned, sending the workers out of the vehicle. Two of them were killed on the spot and two died while on the way to the hospital. Twenty were admitted to Kabin Buri Hospital.

The driver of the pick-up truck fled the scene before the police arrived.
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I do not see the difference between plain murder, and this crap. The driver needs to be put up against the wall and SHOT! 27 people in a pick up FFS!

[hhfarang]

How does one (even S.E. Asians) fit 27 people in one pickup?

[buksida]

4 dead 7 hurt in public minivan wreck

Four people were killed and seven injured when their Bangkok-Si Racha public minivan crashed on the Buraphawithi Expressway on Monday night.

The accident occurred at kilometre marker 1+500 on the elevated expressway, above the Bangkok International Trade and Exhibition Centre at about 8pm.

Local media reported that the left side of the van forcefully rammed into a roadside barrier, killing four passengers, three women and a man, instantly.

Seven other people on board were hurt. It was not known if the driver was among those injured. Names of the deceased and the injured are being withheld.

The van was heading to Si Racha district of Chon Buri when the fatal accident took place. Authorities closed three outbound lanes on the expressway after the incident, leaving only one lane open to traffic and causing heavy traffic congestion.

http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/transpo ... ivan-wreck

[Nothappyjan]

What are the rules for Thais riding on motorbikes around HH