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hhinner wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:11 am
PeteC wrote:I don't know the math formula to calculate G Force, but I would imagine 0-60 in 2 seconds from a standing start is getting close to exerting a force on a human body that could cause a problem in some people.
1.37g.

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The naysayers will also have to keep in mind that bans on the sale of IC vehicles are now not far away in some countries, I think 2025 is the earliest at the moment.

That will take place in California. "Though not a country, it has a GDP higher than most countries.

What will happen to all the petrol vehicles? Will people be forced to throw them away and go into heavy debt to buy an EV?

Will cities improve their public transport systems to acommodate those who can't afford and EV or will it be buy a bike or walk?

One of these days the revolution (Gil Scott Heron aside) will be televised.
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EV's will soon be cheaper than IC cars once the batteries are built on a large enough scale but alternatives are useful.
I commute by e-bike in Luxembourg and on my off days, I use the public transport system which is now completely free of charge in the whole country.
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STEVE G wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:31 pm EV's will soon be cheaper than IC cars once the batteries are built on a large enough scale but alternatives are useful.
I commute by e-bike in Luxembourg and on my off days, I use the public transport system which is now completely free of charge in the whole country.
I doubt that most countries will provide free public transport. Some do for those over 65. Nowhere in the US, that I know of.
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Not a full electric car, but MG are the first company to offer a PHEV in Thailand with their MG HS PHEV, priced at 1,359.000. It will be interesting to see if theirs an appetite for such vehicles here - it seems to have lots of safety kit not normally found in Thai produced cars.

https://www.mgcars.com/th/mg-models/new ... bnEALw_wcB
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Has anyone on here purchased an EV yet, here or in home country? If you do please give us a review a few months into using it. :cheers:
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PeteC wrote:Has anyone on here purchased an EV yet, here or in home country? If you do please give us a review a few months into using it. :cheers:
I’ve ordered the MG HS hybrid - delivery is supposed to be early December but we all know about Thai promises - made to be broken!!

The test drive was good and the car has great qualities - very quiet in EV mode and pretty potent in Super Sport mode (max petrol and electric). It has virtually every safety feature as you winger on a Merc or an Audi at more than double the price. I realise that they are no doubt better quality, I just hope that the MG isn’t too much Style over Substance - I’ll let you know in due course!!


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Thanks. That will be interesting. The Chinese MG HS has nice looking lines, but like you I'm unsure about their quality. We will soon find out, and hope it's good. :cheers:

For those interested, here is the Thai website in English: https://www.mgcars.com/en/mg-models/new-mg-hs/overview

Edit: Above link is for the normal non-EV model.
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Here is the web site for the MG HS PHEV which I think Dannie is talking about. Site is not fully in English.

https://www.mgcars.com/en/mg-models/new ... v/overview
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PeteC wrote:Here is the web site for the MG HS PHEV which I think Dannie is talking about. Site is not fully in English.

https://www.mgcars.com/en/mg-models/new ... v/overview
If you open in Google you should get the option to translate to English. The model being sold in Thailand is also made here, not in China - Not sure whether that’s good or bad?


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Dannie Boy wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 5:28 am And it will cost just over £130,000 so not exactly your everyday runaround - ok it proves that it compares to ICE super cars, but nothing to do with everyday EV runarounds
So +/- 40K over the "standard" Model S, which is reportedly 2.3 seconds 0-60, 160 mph - I test drove one a while back and can confirm that it is Y-Front stainingly quick (why pay the extra?). We've still got a Model 3 on order which is a tad slower at a mere 3.8 seconds 0-60, 160 mph and significantly cheaper than the Model S (though also smaller). Stupidly quick performance which (the latter stat at least) couldn't be used on the UK roads - can however be used at Castle Combe track where pre-Covid I visited frequently. As for Thai drivers and Thai roads..... Perhaps the (SMALL) Electric SUV is the better option.

EV's are incredibly quick and a selling point for some, but range is an issue - will Thailand have this covered?
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Another PHEV is launched in Thailand, Mitsubishi’s Outlander which has been on sale in many countries including the UK for quite a few years. Although it’s quite popular in the UK and has most of the expected safety/creature comforts you’d expect, it’s becoming a bit dated and overtaken by its competitors. The car launched in Thailand has two models and quite pricey at 1,640,000 & 1,749,000 Baht, which I would imagine will restrict its popularity.

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My Brother in the UK has been using Mitsubishi Outlanders for several years now and likes them. He initially got one as a company car as there are considerable tax advantages with using electric/hybrid vehicles.
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MG has now launched what I think many be the first sub-one-million baht EV in Thailand, the MG EP station wagon at 988,000.

They claim it has a range of 380 km on a full charge and according to their ads:
When charging via MG HOME CHARGER from 0% - 100%, the price is about 200 baht per full charge.

Via MG HOME CHARGER, 0% - 100% takes about 7 hrs. 15 min.

Charging via Quick Charge, 0% - 80% takes about 40 minutes
https://www.mgcars.com/en/mg-models/new-mg-ep/overview

Although that page is supposed to be in English, it isn't but if you view it in Chrome and have Google Translate installed, it does a pretty good job of rendering it into English.
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Looks the same as what is on sale in the UK called the MG5 EV where there are two models priced I believe at £24,495 and £26,995 (which is just under 1 million and 1.1 million) after the Government grant for EV’s. It gets a reasonable report on quality but a big plus on VFM.


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