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2021 RA & NZR Announce New Super Rugby Partnership
New look Super Rugby Pacific Tournament Launched
The world’s best provincial competition will kick off a new era in 2022 following a new joint venture partnership between Rugby Australia (RA) and New Zealand Rugby (NZR). Set to kick-off on 18 February 2022, the new 12-team Super Rugby Pacific competition welcomes the introduction of Fijian Drua and Moana Pasifika who will join the five Australian and five New Zealand sides.
The competition structure for Super Rugby Pacific will be as follows:
12 teams (alphabetical order) with Blues, Brumbies, Chiefs, Crusaders, Fijian Drua, Highlanders, Hurricanes, Melbourne Rebels, Moana Pasifika, NSW Waratahs, Queensland Reds, Western Force
18-week competition window from 18 Feb to 18 June 2022 and 24 February to 24 June 2023
91 matches in total
Teams will play 14 regular season matches with each team to host seven matches
Teams will play 8 teams once and 3 teams twice with a focus on derby matches
One competition table with teams ranked 1 to 12 based on competition points
Three-week playoff format involving the top eight teams on the overall competition table with quarters, semis and final as follows:
Quarterfinals – 1 v 8, 2 v 7, 3 v 6 and 4 v 5 with the top-ranked team hosting
Semi-Finals – top-ranked quarter-final winner hosts against lowest-ranked quarter-final winner & 2nd highest ranked quarterfinal winner hosts 3rd highest ranked winner
Final – top-ranked semi-final winner hosts the other semi-final winner
The Fijian Drua had previously competed in Australia's National Rugby Championship [pictured below], winning the title in 2018. Their inclusion was confirmed thanks to the support of Rugby Australia and New Zealand Rugby as well as that of the Australian Government's PacificAus Sports program.
Fiji Rugby Union will announce where Fijian Drua home matches will be played shortly, while Moana Pasifika will play their home fixtures primarily in New Zealand. Super Rugby Pacific’s two new entrants will play each other twice in the first two seasons with other examples where teams play twice to be determined by a seeding process based on 2021 results, with an emphasis on local derbies.
Rugby Australia CEO Andy Marinos said: "We're thrilled to confirm the competition model for next year and beyond and want to thank NZR for their hard work and effort along with Fijian Drua and Moana Pasifika for their patience, and the effort that has been put into their proposals."
"I want to thank Nine and Stan for their endorsement of the competition as well as Foreign Minister Marise Payne and the Australian Government for their terrific support. This is a game-changer for Rugby in the Pacific, and indeed, the rest of the Rugby world. We have seen the brilliant rugby that Fiji play in all formats of the game and their inclusion will make this new competition one of the toughest in the world,” Marinos said.
New Zealand Rugby General Manager Professional Rugby & High Performance Chris Lendrum said: “We are entering an incredibly exciting new phase for rugby in the Pacific region. The trans-Tasman rivalries are crucial to our sport in the Southern Hemisphere, and the existing Super Rugby clubs have built a wonderful history and legacy over 26 years."
“Moana Pasifika and the Fijian Drua will add an enormous amount of energy, skill and talent to the competition, not to mention a passionate support base. The Pasifika nations have added so much to world rugby over the years and this is an opportunity to enhance the standing of Pasifika rugby."
New look Super Rugby Pacific Tournament Launched
The world’s best provincial competition will kick off a new era in 2022 following a new joint venture partnership between Rugby Australia (RA) and New Zealand Rugby (NZR). Set to kick-off on 18 February 2022, the new 12-team Super Rugby Pacific competition welcomes the introduction of Fijian Drua and Moana Pasifika who will join the five Australian and five New Zealand sides.
The competition structure for Super Rugby Pacific will be as follows:
12 teams (alphabetical order) with Blues, Brumbies, Chiefs, Crusaders, Fijian Drua, Highlanders, Hurricanes, Melbourne Rebels, Moana Pasifika, NSW Waratahs, Queensland Reds, Western Force
18-week competition window from 18 Feb to 18 June 2022 and 24 February to 24 June 2023
91 matches in total
Teams will play 14 regular season matches with each team to host seven matches
Teams will play 8 teams once and 3 teams twice with a focus on derby matches
One competition table with teams ranked 1 to 12 based on competition points
Three-week playoff format involving the top eight teams on the overall competition table with quarters, semis and final as follows:
Quarterfinals – 1 v 8, 2 v 7, 3 v 6 and 4 v 5 with the top-ranked team hosting
Semi-Finals – top-ranked quarter-final winner hosts against lowest-ranked quarter-final winner & 2nd highest ranked quarterfinal winner hosts 3rd highest ranked winner
Final – top-ranked semi-final winner hosts the other semi-final winner
The Fijian Drua had previously competed in Australia's National Rugby Championship [pictured below], winning the title in 2018. Their inclusion was confirmed thanks to the support of Rugby Australia and New Zealand Rugby as well as that of the Australian Government's PacificAus Sports program.
Fiji Rugby Union will announce where Fijian Drua home matches will be played shortly, while Moana Pasifika will play their home fixtures primarily in New Zealand. Super Rugby Pacific’s two new entrants will play each other twice in the first two seasons with other examples where teams play twice to be determined by a seeding process based on 2021 results, with an emphasis on local derbies.
Rugby Australia CEO Andy Marinos said: "We're thrilled to confirm the competition model for next year and beyond and want to thank NZR for their hard work and effort along with Fijian Drua and Moana Pasifika for their patience, and the effort that has been put into their proposals."
"I want to thank Nine and Stan for their endorsement of the competition as well as Foreign Minister Marise Payne and the Australian Government for their terrific support. This is a game-changer for Rugby in the Pacific, and indeed, the rest of the Rugby world. We have seen the brilliant rugby that Fiji play in all formats of the game and their inclusion will make this new competition one of the toughest in the world,” Marinos said.
New Zealand Rugby General Manager Professional Rugby & High Performance Chris Lendrum said: “We are entering an incredibly exciting new phase for rugby in the Pacific region. The trans-Tasman rivalries are crucial to our sport in the Southern Hemisphere, and the existing Super Rugby clubs have built a wonderful history and legacy over 26 years."
“Moana Pasifika and the Fijian Drua will add an enormous amount of energy, skill and talent to the competition, not to mention a passionate support base. The Pasifika nations have added so much to world rugby over the years and this is an opportunity to enhance the standing of Pasifika rugby."
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All Blacks run rampant over Wallabies in Perth
https://super.rugby/therugbychampionshi ... -in-perth/
New Zealand were ruthless on attack against a lacklustre Australian outfit in their Rugby Championship clash in Perth on Sunday, winning 38-21.
Like the previous two Bledisloe Cup Tests, the All Blacks controlled proceedings for long periods and although they had to play with 14 men for 20 minutes, after Jordie Barrett was red carded for a dangerous flying kick to Marika Koroibete's face – while gathering a high ball – late in the first half, they thoroughly deserved their victory.
In the end, New Zealand outscored their hosts six tries to three with David Havili leading the way with a brace of five-pointers while Jordie Barrett, Will Jordan, Anton Lienert-Brown and George Bridge also crossed the whitewash. The All Blacks' other points came courtesy of two penalties and a conversion from Beauden Barrett.
For the Wallabies, Folau Fainga'a, Nic White and Tom Banks scored tries while Noah Lolesio and Reece Hodge (2) succeeded with conversions.
The Wallabies made a superb start and in the third minute, Samu Kerevi made an excellent line break which had the All Blacks' defence at sixes and sevens. He did well to offload to Marika Koroibete, who shrugged off a couple of defenders on his way over the try-line but his effort was disallowed when television replays revealed that Kerevi had launched the attack from an offside position at a ruck in the build-up.
From the resulting penalty, the visitors were soon camped inside Australia's half but despite an extended period camped close to the home side's try-line, they could not score a try but eventually opened the scoring in the ninth minute courtesy of a Barrett penalty.
The All Blacks continued to hold the upper hand and in the 15th minute, Barrett made it 6-0 when he slotted his second penalty after James Slipper was blown up for illegal play on defence.
Beauden Barrett delivered a perfectly weighted grubber kick which Will Jordan gathered before passing to Brad Weber and he was in the clear inside Australia's half. Weber did well to draw in Noah Lolesio before offloading to Jordie Barrett, who had an easy run-in next to the posts.
In the 28th minute, Australia had a chance to open their account when Nepo Laulala strayed offside on defence but Lolesio was off target with his shot at goal.
Despite that setback, the Wallabies received a shot in the arm soon after when Barrett was red carded in controversial fashion. This, while gathering a high ball in his half but as he descended to the ground his boot struck Koroibete’s face and after watching replays and consulting his TMO, referee Damon Murphy ruled that Barrett's kick was dangerous and issued a red card.
With an extra man on the field, Australia were soon on the attack in New Zealand's half and in the 39th minute Koroibete dotted down after a lineout drive deep inside New Zealand territory. That score was ruled out, however as a television replay showed that he had crawled on his way over the try-line.
That proved costly as on the stroke of half-time Havili went over for his first try, off the back of a maul, and the All Blacks had their tails up at the interval with the score 18-0 in their favour.
Just like the first half, Australia were fastest out of the blocks in the second period and in the 50th minute a superb line break from Tate McDermott set up a well-taken try for Folau Fainga'a.
The Wallabies' joy didn't last long as five minutes later Akira Ioane beat three defenders before offloading to Jordan, who crossed for the visitors' third try before Havili intercepted a wayward pass from Matt Philip and raced away for his second five-pointer on the hour-mark.
The final quarter was a frantic affair with both sides running the ball from all areas of the field. Australia were rewarded when White scored his try in the 66th minute but New Zealand cancelled that effort out with further five-pointers from Lienert-Brown and Bridge before Banks scored a consolation try in the game's closing stages.
Scores
Australia - Tries: Fainga'a, White, Banks Cons: Lolesio, Hodge (2)
New Zealand - Tires: J Barrett, Havili (2), Jordan, Lienert-Brown, Bridge Pens: B Barrett (2) Cons: B Barrett
Red Card: J Barrett (27')
Australia: 15 Tom Banks, 14 Andrew Kellaway, 13 Len Ikitau, 12 Samu Kerevi, 11 Marika Koroibete, 10 Noah Lolesio, 9 Tate McDermott, 8 Rob Valetini, 7 Michael Hooper (c), 6 Lachie Swinton, 5 Matt Philip, 4 Darcy Swain, 3 Allan Alaalatoa, 2 Folau Fainga'a, 1 James Slipper.
Replacements: 16 Lachlan Lonergan, 17 Angus Bell, 18 Taniela Tupou, 19 Izack Rodda, 20 Pete Samu, 21 Nic White, 22 Reece Hodge, 23 Jordan Petaia
All Blacks: 15 Jordie Barrett, 14 Will Jordan, 13 Anton Lienert-Brown, 12 David Havili, 11 Rieko Ioane, 10 Beauden Barrett, 9 Brad Weber, 8 Ardie Savea (c), 7 Dalton Papalii, 6 Akira Ioane, 5 Scott Barrett, 4 Brodie Retallick, 3 Nepo Laulala, 2 Codie Taylor, 1 George Bower.
Replacements: 16 Samisoni Taukei'aho, 17 Karl Tu'inukuafe, 18 Angus Ta'avao, 19 Tupou Vaa'i, 20 Ethan Blackadder, 21 TJ Perenara, 22 Damian McKenzie, 23 George Bridge.
Referee: Damon Murphy (Australia)
Assistant Referees: Jordan Way (Australia) & Graham Cooper (Australia)
TMO: Brett Cronan (Australia)
https://super.rugby/therugbychampionshi ... -in-perth/
New Zealand were ruthless on attack against a lacklustre Australian outfit in their Rugby Championship clash in Perth on Sunday, winning 38-21.
Like the previous two Bledisloe Cup Tests, the All Blacks controlled proceedings for long periods and although they had to play with 14 men for 20 minutes, after Jordie Barrett was red carded for a dangerous flying kick to Marika Koroibete's face – while gathering a high ball – late in the first half, they thoroughly deserved their victory.
In the end, New Zealand outscored their hosts six tries to three with David Havili leading the way with a brace of five-pointers while Jordie Barrett, Will Jordan, Anton Lienert-Brown and George Bridge also crossed the whitewash. The All Blacks' other points came courtesy of two penalties and a conversion from Beauden Barrett.
For the Wallabies, Folau Fainga'a, Nic White and Tom Banks scored tries while Noah Lolesio and Reece Hodge (2) succeeded with conversions.
The Wallabies made a superb start and in the third minute, Samu Kerevi made an excellent line break which had the All Blacks' defence at sixes and sevens. He did well to offload to Marika Koroibete, who shrugged off a couple of defenders on his way over the try-line but his effort was disallowed when television replays revealed that Kerevi had launched the attack from an offside position at a ruck in the build-up.
From the resulting penalty, the visitors were soon camped inside Australia's half but despite an extended period camped close to the home side's try-line, they could not score a try but eventually opened the scoring in the ninth minute courtesy of a Barrett penalty.
The All Blacks continued to hold the upper hand and in the 15th minute, Barrett made it 6-0 when he slotted his second penalty after James Slipper was blown up for illegal play on defence.
Beauden Barrett delivered a perfectly weighted grubber kick which Will Jordan gathered before passing to Brad Weber and he was in the clear inside Australia's half. Weber did well to draw in Noah Lolesio before offloading to Jordie Barrett, who had an easy run-in next to the posts.
In the 28th minute, Australia had a chance to open their account when Nepo Laulala strayed offside on defence but Lolesio was off target with his shot at goal.
Despite that setback, the Wallabies received a shot in the arm soon after when Barrett was red carded in controversial fashion. This, while gathering a high ball in his half but as he descended to the ground his boot struck Koroibete’s face and after watching replays and consulting his TMO, referee Damon Murphy ruled that Barrett's kick was dangerous and issued a red card.
With an extra man on the field, Australia were soon on the attack in New Zealand's half and in the 39th minute Koroibete dotted down after a lineout drive deep inside New Zealand territory. That score was ruled out, however as a television replay showed that he had crawled on his way over the try-line.
That proved costly as on the stroke of half-time Havili went over for his first try, off the back of a maul, and the All Blacks had their tails up at the interval with the score 18-0 in their favour.
Just like the first half, Australia were fastest out of the blocks in the second period and in the 50th minute a superb line break from Tate McDermott set up a well-taken try for Folau Fainga'a.
The Wallabies' joy didn't last long as five minutes later Akira Ioane beat three defenders before offloading to Jordan, who crossed for the visitors' third try before Havili intercepted a wayward pass from Matt Philip and raced away for his second five-pointer on the hour-mark.
The final quarter was a frantic affair with both sides running the ball from all areas of the field. Australia were rewarded when White scored his try in the 66th minute but New Zealand cancelled that effort out with further five-pointers from Lienert-Brown and Bridge before Banks scored a consolation try in the game's closing stages.
Scores
Australia - Tries: Fainga'a, White, Banks Cons: Lolesio, Hodge (2)
New Zealand - Tires: J Barrett, Havili (2), Jordan, Lienert-Brown, Bridge Pens: B Barrett (2) Cons: B Barrett
Red Card: J Barrett (27')
Australia: 15 Tom Banks, 14 Andrew Kellaway, 13 Len Ikitau, 12 Samu Kerevi, 11 Marika Koroibete, 10 Noah Lolesio, 9 Tate McDermott, 8 Rob Valetini, 7 Michael Hooper (c), 6 Lachie Swinton, 5 Matt Philip, 4 Darcy Swain, 3 Allan Alaalatoa, 2 Folau Fainga'a, 1 James Slipper.
Replacements: 16 Lachlan Lonergan, 17 Angus Bell, 18 Taniela Tupou, 19 Izack Rodda, 20 Pete Samu, 21 Nic White, 22 Reece Hodge, 23 Jordan Petaia
All Blacks: 15 Jordie Barrett, 14 Will Jordan, 13 Anton Lienert-Brown, 12 David Havili, 11 Rieko Ioane, 10 Beauden Barrett, 9 Brad Weber, 8 Ardie Savea (c), 7 Dalton Papalii, 6 Akira Ioane, 5 Scott Barrett, 4 Brodie Retallick, 3 Nepo Laulala, 2 Codie Taylor, 1 George Bower.
Replacements: 16 Samisoni Taukei'aho, 17 Karl Tu'inukuafe, 18 Angus Ta'avao, 19 Tupou Vaa'i, 20 Ethan Blackadder, 21 TJ Perenara, 22 Damian McKenzie, 23 George Bridge.
Referee: Damon Murphy (Australia)
Assistant Referees: Jordan Way (Australia) & Graham Cooper (Australia)
TMO: Brett Cronan (Australia)
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^ Can't say I agree with the 20 minute Red Card - especially for the play by Barrett, he should have stayed off the field. This rule needs looking at.
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Yes, I agree. I can see the thinking behind the change, but turning a red card into a 20-minute yellow seems to undermine it completely. And as for Barrett, there's no way he should have been replaced after 20 minutes (he did, of course, stay off the field himself). Although listening to the commentators, you might think it should just have been a penalty!
Maybe 30 minutes? Can you 'grade' red card offences?
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Surely if it is worthy of a red card they should be off the field for the rest off the match and banned for the next 2. Football is more sensible on that rule.
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Yep - sorry, should have said player/replacement should have been off the field for the remainderdtaai-maai wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 7:01 pm And as for Barrett, there's no way he should have been replaced after 20 minutes (he did, of course, stay off the field himself). Although listening to the commentators, you might think it should just have been a penalty!
It's a difficult one - my personal opinion is the a Red Card is a Red Card, end of. I can understand the thinking in that a Red Card can ruin a game, especially if given early on and that the powers that be are trying to promote an exciting game (perhaps SA's style of play should be banned instead.....).lindosfan1 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 7:38 pm Surely if it is worthy of a red card they should be off the field for the rest off the match and banned for the next 2. Football is more sensible on that rule.
Perhaps an "Intermediate Card/Amber Card" should be brought in - borderline Yellow/Red. Warburton's sending off in the 2014 RWC Semi-Final for example (which I thought was Yellow) being "Amber", Barrett's being a clear Red, end of.
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That could work, however a lot of decisions are based on one persons judgement, ok Barretts was a clear red, but judging between red and yellow in some cases is a fine line , introducing a third card makes it more judgemental.Perhaps an "Intermediate Card/Amber Card" should be brought in - borderline Yellow/Red. Warburton's sending off in the 2014 RWC Semi-Final for example (which I thought was Yellow) being "Amber", Barrett's being a clear Red, end
I have always said being a referee is difficult but with instant playbacks it makes it easier to criticise. Should be easier for referess but again sometimes it is so close it is an opinion.
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Does anyone understand this plan? What positions will be eliminated?
Rugby Union: New World 12s tournament proposed to launch in August 2022
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Rugby Union: New World 12s tournament proposed to launch in August 2022
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Can't say yet as they haven't given any details. It sounds like they want faster, running rugby in a one-off (for now at least) tournament. I'm guessing scrums will be a formality at best, down to 5 or 6 players, lots of replacements.
It will probably be a halfway house between 15-a-side and 7's, but they'll want to make sure it's not just a rip-off of Rugby League. Probably won't be an 80-minute game.
With the franchise system, this will be the rugby version of cricket's T20 competition, so lots of fireworks and loud music! Hansen even mentions the IPL. It's all about the money, honey, but I suppose it might be fun to watch. How it fits in with domestic leagues, regional club competitions and a packed international schedule is another matter altogether!
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As far as I'm aware, teams would be made up of 6 forwards and 6 backs. I would assume that in the forwards you would lose the two Flankers and in the backs possibly one of the Centers (?) Could be interesting though!PeteC wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 4:10 pm Does anyone understand this plan? What positions will be eliminated?
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Certainly the danger "if" you lose the two Flankers - stability in the Second Row will be lost.dtaai-maai wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 5:12 pmI'm guessing scrums will be a formality at best, down to 5 or 6 players, lots of replacements.
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https://www.allblacks.com/news/barrett
Jordie Barrett will be available for selection to play Argentina on Sunday after his red card against Australia in Perth was dismissed by the SANZAAR Judicial committee.
Barrett scored a try early in the Fortinet Rugby Championship clash in Perth before being red-carded for making contact with the face of Wallabies winger Marika Koriebete with his boot after taking a high ball.
The SANZAAR Judicial Committee said:
Having conducted a detailed review of all the available evidence, including all camera angles and additional evidence, including from the player, a medical report on the opposition player involved, and from two expert witnesses, and having considered the submissions from his legal representative, Stephen Cottrell, the Judicial Committee found that the Player had not transgressed Rule 9.11 and had therefore not committed an act of foul play.
He legitimately went up in the air to collect a high ball, when in trying to regain his balance on the downward trajectory, his boot inadvertently made contact with his opponent’s head. The accidental nature of the incident lead the Judicial Committee to find that there was no intentional nor reckless act of dangerous play, with the result that the Red Card is expunged from the player’s record."
"The player is therefore free to play in the upcoming matches.”
Jordie Barrett will be available for selection to play Argentina on Sunday after his red card against Australia in Perth was dismissed by the SANZAAR Judicial committee.
Barrett scored a try early in the Fortinet Rugby Championship clash in Perth before being red-carded for making contact with the face of Wallabies winger Marika Koriebete with his boot after taking a high ball.
The SANZAAR Judicial Committee said:
Having conducted a detailed review of all the available evidence, including all camera angles and additional evidence, including from the player, a medical report on the opposition player involved, and from two expert witnesses, and having considered the submissions from his legal representative, Stephen Cottrell, the Judicial Committee found that the Player had not transgressed Rule 9.11 and had therefore not committed an act of foul play.
He legitimately went up in the air to collect a high ball, when in trying to regain his balance on the downward trajectory, his boot inadvertently made contact with his opponent’s head. The accidental nature of the incident lead the Judicial Committee to find that there was no intentional nor reckless act of dangerous play, with the result that the Red Card is expunged from the player’s record."
"The player is therefore free to play in the upcoming matches.”
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^^Ludicrous. Nobody's suggesting it was deliberate, but if you go up for the ball with your boot raised like that it has to be reckless and dangerous.
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