Electric Vehicles (EV) Thread

[STEVE G]

Toyota investors are calling for the board chair’s ouster over the Japanese carmaker’s slow move to EVs

https://fortune.com/2023/06/13/akio-toy ... ctric-car/

[STEVE G]

Toyota Wakes Up To Find That It’s 2023 & There’s An EV Revolution Going On
https://cleantechnica.com/2023/06/14/to ... -going-on/

[STEVE G]

Smaller, Faster, Cheaper: Volvo EX30 Might Be Tesla Model Y’s Fiercest Rival
https://insideevs.com/news/672502/volvo ... -y-rivals/

"...it’s the brand's fastest accelerating car ever.."

[Dannie Boy]

Smaller, Faster, Cheaper: Volvo EX30 Might Be Tesla Model Y’s Fiercest Rival
https://insideevs.com/news/672502/volvo ... -y-rivals/

"...it’s the brand's fastest accelerating car ever.."

Obviously the writers of the article are comparing the new Volvo with Tesla’s model Y and yet there’s quite a difference in size, so I’m not sure it’s a completely relevant comparison?

[STEVE G]

Smaller, Faster, Cheaper: Volvo EX30 Might Be Tesla Model Y’s Fiercest Rival
https://insideevs.com/news/672502/volvo ... -y-rivals/

"...it’s the brand's fastest accelerating car ever.."

Obviously the writers of the article are comparing the new Volvo with Tesla’s model Y and yet there’s quite a difference in size, so I’m not sure it’s a completely relevant comparison?

I think they're referring to rival in sales, the Tesla Y is currently the best selling car worldwide.
The 4wd 400hp version sounds interesting if it's affordable.

[Dannie Boy]

An interesting article regarding the pros and cons of Lithium Ion and Solid State Battery technologies.
https://www.topspeed.com/solid-state-ba ... batteries/

[Dannie Boy]

A fairly realistic looking outlook for the introduction of solid state batteries, confirming what has long been said about the end of this decade before we see the mass implementation.

https://ts2.space/en/the-advent-of-soli ... -timeline/

[2/cb]

No matter how often EV enthusiasts post nonsense on here there’s still no getting away from the fact that the vehicles are poor value for money, range-limited and unreliable. Most of us think they’re crap.

[STEVE G]

Horsepower Now Means Nothing

As electric cars continue to break records, mind-boggling torque ratings will rule the roads instead of horsepower fueled by gasoline.
https://www.mensjournal.com/gear/horsep ... ns-nothing

[Dannie Boy]

I think you should speak for yourself and let others voice their own opinions.

There’s no doubt that (some) EV’s are far from perfect, but year on year they’re getting better and by the end of the decade, there’s mounting evidence that solid state battery EV’s should be readily available, offering extended range and at (hopefully) reasonable prices. There’s also plenty of evidence that many are just as reliable as ICE cars - the difference between the best and worst ICE car is considerable and EV’s are little different.


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[caller]

They will become popular with the masses when the prices drop, recharging facilities are improved and the new ss batteries really work as claimed. So yes, still a few years away.

[Dannie Boy]

Horsepower Now Means Nothing

As electric cars continue to break records, mind-boggling torque ratings will rule the roads instead of horsepower fueled by gasoline.
https://www.mensjournal.com/gear/horsep ... ns-nothing

My son has just acquired through his company, a Polestar 2 EV and whilst the power outputs are nothing special, the acceleration between say 30-50 is really quick - a Tesla Dual Motor must be sensational.

[KhunLA]

No matter how often EV enthusiasts post nonsense on here there’s still no getting away from the fact that the vehicles are
... poor value for money,
... range-limited
... and unreliable. Most of us think they’re crap

... wrong
... wrong
... & wrong
I completely disagree with your 'opinion'

[STEVE G]

Horsepower Now Means Nothing

As electric cars continue to break records, mind-boggling torque ratings will rule the roads instead of horsepower fueled by gasoline.
https://www.mensjournal.com/gear/horsep ... ns-nothing

My son has just acquired through his company, a Polestar 2 EV and whilst the power outputs are nothing special, the acceleration between say 30-50 is really quick - a Tesla Dual Motor must be sensational.

I've started seeing a lot of Polestars in Europe now.
As for performance, Lucid have a new model that they claim will out accelerate a Formula 1 car up to 80mph and that's for a four door saloon car!

"The Lucid Air Sapphire will “outrun a Formula One car” says boss"
https://www.topgear.com/car-news/electr ... -says-boss

[Dannie Boy]

In the UK, the Kia Niro is one of a few cars that is available in Hybrid, Plug-in Hybrid and full EV options.

The attached article and video shows the difference in purchase price and running costs in two very different scenarios. Although the overall cost depends on whether the EV car can be 100% charged at home, but if not it works out at significantly more expensive that the other two options. This highlights that there is still a lot of work to be done before EV’s become competitive with ICE cars - of course other countries like Thailand might produce different results, but still a bit of an eye-opener that EV’s are not necessarily the cheapest option where “identical” cars are available.

https://www.whatcar.com/news/hybrid-vs- ... nnel=email