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pharvey wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 2:59 am
dtaai-maai wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 2:54 am I'm watching Connacht-Bristol
Could be a good one.... I have to be loyal and watch the Scarlets - damn the state we're in!! :wink:

[EDIT] The Bristol match of course being recorded - at least S4C unlike TNT/BT Sports don't give scores away!!
Well, Bristol were never going to do anything after the Red Card for Caulfield - both teams were low down in the Championship Table, yet both with a chance of a place in the Last 16. Connacht take that place with the Bonus Point win, but I don't think will progress too far (neither would Bristol) - still, a sad end for Bristol's hopes (I "almost" feel sorry for them, but I do support Bath - very close neighbours)!!

Last night's Scarlet's match really was depressing.. Yet again. The 19-31 loss to Edinburgh actually makes the Scarlets look good - how sad is that?!!

Watching rugby is supposed to be an enjoyable pastime.... Watching the Scarlets these days is truly depressing, clearly indicated by the dismal crowd - the laughable thing being that the empty seats made the "West Is Best" (sign - through seating) all the more visible!!
The reduced Salary Cap next season is likely to only make matters worse under the current management and coaching structure.
Reached the bottom and showing signs of digging....

More depression after wating 'Queens vs Ulster..... Dear God. :roll: :(

HOWEVER, a possible light flickering at the end of the tunnel.... HT for Racing 92 vs Cardiff just now. Cardiff very much the underdogs, but Cardiff giving it all - fair play to them!! :thumb:

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More depression after watching 'Queens vs Ulster..... Dear God. :roll: :(
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pharvey wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 11:04 pm HOWEVER, a possible light flickering at the end of the tunnel.... HT for Racing 92 vs Cardiff just now. Cardiff very much the underdogs, but Cardiff giving it all - fair play to them!! :thumb:
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Clutching at straws, as always... :roll: :laugh:

I'm watching Sarries as live.
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dtaai-maai wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 3:37 am
More depression after watching 'Queens vs Ulster..... Dear God. :roll: :(
:lach: :lach:
Oh you unfeeling barsteward!! :roll:
dtaai-maai wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 3:37 am Clutching at straws, as always... :roll: :laugh:
Unfortunately so with regards to Welsh Rugby.... But in all fairness, Cardiff did show they have the bollocks to take it to any side - it's going to take some more, but they're heading in the right direction I think. Let's be fair, Racing playing at home with the players they have was never going to be an easy task. The joke is one of the stand out performers for Racing (Will Rowlands), a Welshman is ineligible for Wales because of the "25 Cap Rule" and moved on due to the Salary Cap.... Yes, he went for money/security... and a better club and quite frankly a better life!! Who can blame him, but how fecking sad for Welsh Rugby! :banghead: :cuss: Oh, and did you notice that tw@t on the wing for Racing after our chat regarding the NFL? A certain Christian Wade.....
dtaai-maai wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 3:37 am I'm watching Sarries as live.
Oh, I'd given up by then..... Lot's of games recorded, but it's only going to add to more medication required!!

Saving myself now for Toulouse vs Bath.... Both already through, but Bath just need 1 point for a "Home Tie" which could make all the difference.

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I've just been watching BBC News, and it was saying Owen Farrell will no longer be eligible to play for England because he's off to play for a French (I think) side.

Is this a new rule, or just England rugby shooting themselves in the foot? I don't watch much rugby these days, but I'm sure I see International players from other nations playing in the English league. Will all of those guys be banned from representing their nation in future?

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No, it's been around a while, aimed at keeping our best players at English clubs. The Welsh have the same rule, but it's even more self-defeating for them as playing for an English club counts as playing abroad, though I think they now make an exception for players who already have at least 25 caps. I'll let pharvey have a little rant about that.
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Oh, so it is shooting ourselves in the foot - crazy.
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dtaai-maai wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2024 2:43 pm No, it's been around a while, aimed at keeping our best players at English clubs. The Welsh have the same rule, but it's even more self-defeating for them as playing for an English club counts as playing abroad, though I think they now make an exception for players who already have at least 25 caps. I'll let pharvey have a little rant about that.
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Big Boy wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2024 2:53 pm Oh, so it is shooting ourselves in the foot - crazy.
Oh indeed, the English RFU ruling is any player playing outside the English league(s) is ineligible, whilst for the WRU, any player playing outside Wales who does not have at least 25 Caps is ineligible to play for Wales. England have a far larger pool of players to select from, so whilst inconvenient shall we say, it does not do the damage that it has done so to Welsh rugby. However, the Unions will always continue to state it is designed to keep best players playing within their own leagues. In England it is working far better (despite the loss of the likes of Wasps and Worcester etc.) - Larger financial pot/Salary Cap = Better "Player Base" = Larger and more successful league = Far Larger "Fan Base/Crowds" = More money coming in. The complete and utter ignorance and arrogance of the tw@ts running the Welsh Rugby Union however is beyond belief. :banghead: :cuss: Budgets/Salary Caps being reduced = Players Leaving = Smaller League (Existing 4 Regions look set to be reduced to 3) = Far Smaller "Fan Base/Crowds" = Less money coming in = DISASTER!!

There are certainly players leaving England, but these tend to be those in the twilight of their careers looking to cash in by extending their large salaries even further ("Runaway Farrell" is one of the highest paid rugby players and was reportedly on +/- 750K at Sarries). Losing Farrell is not a huge loss for England IMHO - plenty of talent there to pick from. From a Welsh perspective, I'll miss him for the amount of penalties and Cards he gave away :D :wink:

There is an exodus of players from Wales at the moment some at the end of their careers moving to Japan, France etc., many just starting out or in their prime and simply being lured to the leagues of England, France and Japan to secure some financial stability for their families... The odd one even going to the NFL for the glitz, glamour and promises of gold.... Many will fall foul of the 25 Cap ruling and be ineligible to play for Wales again. Ultimately delivering a huge blow to the national side.

Ho Hum... :banghead:
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Perhaps I could have mentioned more from last weekend's rugby, but I was that pi$$ed off it was incredible.... That said, BIG shout out for the Ospreys!!

On to this weekend (well starting tonight) and it's back to the norm - non-European Rugby (aside from the potentially class match-up of Toulon vs La Rochelle.

Plenty on as always, but what teams are going to be put out? Ultimately, sides are looking at a Top +/- 4 finish in their respective (Country/Regional) Leagues to get to the "Playoffs", and also with an eye on the European Tournaments - of course, there's also the Six Nations coming up and player availability will be another significant factor in Europe.

Anywho...: -

Bristol vs Bath - BIG Match for me being a Bath supporter (well in the Premiership).
'Queens vs Kittens (Quins vs Leicester) - On tonight! Damn, 1 hr actually.... Oh for a Leicester win!!

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Two points:

1. Is it really necessary for commentators to constantly apologise for bad language picked up on the ref's mike? The f word is so commonly heard on tv nowadays that it is hardly worth mentioning.

2. It seems to me that virtually every defensive line behind a ruck or when the attack is near the try line is off-side.
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dtaai-maai wrote: Sun Jan 28, 2024 1:04 am Two points:

1. Is it really necessary for commentators to constantly apologise for bad language picked up on the ref's mike? The f word is so commonly heard on tv nowadays that it is hardly worth mentioning.

2. It seems to me that virtually every defensive line behind a ruck or when the attack is near the try line is off-side.
Commentary is dire on BT/TNT Sports, but I guess they have to cover their ample backsides these days....

The defensive line live offside these days - "Rush Defense" etc. Refereeing is also incredibly lax on forward passes, lineout throws not being straight and ridiculous feeding of the scrum.... Why have the law if it's not going to be implemented?

And onto Bristol vs Bath.... A crazy game!! Over 100 points scored, 13 tries, 4 Yellow Cards (should have been more) and the odd Penalty Try (again, should have been more)!! Bristol 57 vs Bath 44 :shock:

Before going into detail, I will have to say (through gritted teeth) that Bristol just deserved a slim victory..... :banghead: :cuss:

DM bless his cotton socks berated me for my view on the refereeing and the LHG Yellow Carded me for language and descent!! :roll: :oops:

Both teams were without a number of their first team players due to international call-ups, injury or suspension - Bath however suffered more than Bristol in key positions I feel. Certainly at Center, Scrum-half and Number 8 with Ojomoh, Spencer and Barbeary all missing....

Bath had their collective arses handed to them in the loose in the first half, where Barbeary (and Underhill) would have made all the difference. Bristol took full advantage and were cracking in attack, though Bath's defence were all over the place especially at Center where they missed Ojomoh. Bath certainly improved after the break, but the errors were still there - missed tackles, not committing enough players at the breakdown - though still putting Bristol under a hell of a lot of pressure at times (clearly shown by the amount of penalties given away by Bristol in the "Red Zone").

And sorry DM, but the refereeing was absolutely shite at times. Bath had two clear tries disallowed, should have been awarded a Penalty Try with Bristol's 6 coming in from the side and tackling Bath's Dunn around the neck preventing a clear try. He should also have gone to the Bin for 10 minutes (though he did later on)..... Ref simply awards Bath a penalty, WTF?
Bristol at one point had given away 6 straight penalties in the "Red Zone" (9 straight in total) before the ref finally gave a Yellow Card.... One play later and Bristol give yet another blatant penalty in the "Red Zone" only for the ref to issue a fecking warning!! COME ON!! :banghead:
Bath's first Yellow Card was very harsh IMHO, their second was a blatant and deliberate knock-on, but Bristol did the same not too much later and only a scrum given..... :roll:

Offsides galore by both teams, lot's of niggle, plenty of passion and a hell of a local derby. Pissed off with the scoreline and the refereeing, but a hell of an exciting game especially for the neutral!! :thumb:

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PeteC wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 4:03 am All Blacks 2024 schedule
They just don't have the b*ll*cks to play Wales do they..... :roll: :D :neener:
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The Steinlager Ultra-low Carb Series and the Lipovitan-D Challenge Cup... :shock:

Try saying those after a few drinks! :laugh:
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dtaai-maai wrote: Thu Feb 01, 2024 6:11 am The Steinlager Ultra-low Carb Series and the Lipovitan-D Challenge Cup... :shock:

Try saying those after a few drinks! :laugh:
Christ, try saying it in Welsh!! :thumb: :D
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Ahh, the "Six Nations"!! Generally it's Christmas Day for me. but this year the Grinch is hiding amongst the pressies!!

Wales are starting anew and without a multitude of players through retirement, injury or unavailability. The big plus is that Gatland and his coaching team have had the b0ll0cks to pick a fairly young and inexperienced squad with the goal of building to the future. We may well have our arses given to us in a few fixtures, but I've no doubt we'll play with belief and passion!

We'll be no pushovers!! :neener:
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