roccia

[chelsea]

Ozuncle/JW you both are both correct in all you say in your posts on this subject. You both give a balanced view from people with the knowlege of how thinks work in the food/beverage business.

I would love some of these posters that have moaned and groaned in the various food & drinks postings recentley to spend an hour or two in one of the places they are moaning about when the kitchens are busy.
They may then see, how hard it is to run a kitchen and it hopefuuly stop their continual bitching and moaning on the subject.
I would hazard a guess that they would not last one hour in a hot kitchen.

[dtaai-maai]

I would love some of these posters that have moaned and groaned in the various food & drinks postings recentley to spend an hour or two in one of the places they are moaning about when the kitchens are busy.

I expect they/we did, waiting for the wrong order and then being told it was our own fault - probably why they/we were moaning in the first place!

More seriously (and I'm not a regular eater-out-at-restaurants), it seems to me that most of the threads about particular restaurants have contained both positive and negative comments. Surely no one is seriously suggesting that you should only contribute if you've got something good to say?

[Jockey]

Surely no one is seriously suggesting that you should only contribute if you've got something good to say?

Yes I was thinking the same thought. Whats worse is plugging a place which is obviously rank rotten.

I passed Roccias last night. It looked huge and empty (about 8pm). It got me thinking - a place that looks so posh that uses packet pasta must be pretentious. Also, if it has tables to accommodate loads of customers on 3 big floors, why could it not cope with a table of 19 who had already pre booked?

I think I'll give it a miss.

[ozuncle]

Jockey, your a hard man!
It was Monday night.

I wish my place was full every night.

[Roel]

Chelsea said:

I would hazard a guess that they would not last one hour in a hot kitchen.

Recently I bought a shirt only to find out at home that the stitches were no good. I returned to the shop, complained and got another one. Now I know I should not have done that because I must admit I would not last one hour in a Bangladeshi sweatshop.

[russ]

can someone tell me if it is a italian that runs roccia when we was in there we did not see one falang on the staff also as for the comment of should spend some time in the kitchen why would i want to do that i am paying for someone to cook my meal and are you only allowed to say about good food not bad on the forum as i said before we have been to loads of places in hua hin that have been very busy and the food and service was very good we had ten people go to coco 51 2 weeks ago and it was packed but food came on time i think roccia needs to get more staff so when busy they can cope

vivienne

[dtaai-maai]

Blimey, Viv, that's possibly the most exhausting post I've ever read!

I'm off for a liedown with a cold towel over my eyes...

(Come back, Sarge, all is forgiven!)

[huahinsimon]

as for the comment of should spend some time in the kitchen ...are you only allowed to say about good food not bad on the forum

vivienne

Right on Vivienne, It seems the Feeding Time forum is going the way of the Property forum. No criticisms allowed. The restaurateurs and their apologists would have you believe there is a perfectly acceptable reason for every short coming in a restaurant. The most ridiculous one is "Its hot in the kitchen."

someone once said. If you cant stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

All those who went into the restaurant business Shirly should have known that it get hot in a kitchen. That mistakes are made. But they don't want to take responsibility. It ain't their fault. "It's hot in the kitchen. Its difficult to prepare 15 or 20 meals." Boo Hoo Hoo. Never mind they take booking and provide seating for 30, 40, 50 people. Don't they think what will happen if perchance they get 30 or 40 customers? Apparently not.

If service is exceptionally slow, the orders are incorrect, or the food questionable, The punters should just pay the bill, shut up, and go back another time and give them a second try to see if it was a 'one off' happening. If it wasn't just shut up, take no "cheap shots" and the very difficult business of running a restaurant. Say nothing, just dont go back.
Yea, Right!
Roel put this whole issue in an easily understandable comparison.

"Recently I bought a shirt only to find out at home that the stitches were no good. I returned to the shop, complained and got another one. Now I know I should not have done that because I must admit I would not last one hour in a Bangladeshi sweatshop."

I've nothing against restauranteurs as a profession. My posts on Feeding time have recommendations over complaints by greater than 2 to 1. But it is possible to scroll through my posts and purposely select the complaints and throw out the label "petty complainer." But who would do such a thing?

HHS

[STEVE G]

HuaHinDolly wrote:

Baan E-san - we tried to go to lunch but only open for dinner?

HHD, they have a second restaurant that is open at lunchtime, and in my opinion is the better of the two. As you drive from Hua Hin to Cha-am it’s on the left opposite the first entrance to the military camps on the right, I always look for a big chicken in the front as the name is in Thai!
Although it’s on the main road, they have a line of salas around the back alongside a small garden and if you go in the day you will get good prompt service. It’s one of the best restaurants we’ve found for Thai and Issan food.

[Jockey]

Totally agree with Steve G. Apart from the rooster statues at the entrance, you can find this place a little after the ISUZU garage (look for the green roof)

Warning! - Many motorbikes coming down the wrong side of the road at this area.

[buksida]

Right on Vivienne, It seems the Feeding Time forum is going the way of the Property forum. No criticisms allowed.

I think you've got yours eyes shut, most of the threads on here are slagging off some restaurant or other.

[DawnHRD]

^ Agreed. Maybe those who are arguing back are just fed up of the seemingly constant negativity in many areas of the board at the moment?

[Jockey]

^ Agreed. Maybe those who are arguing back are just fed up of the seemingly constant negativity in many areas of the board at the moment?

I don't think reporting an experience at a restaurant, good or bad, should be described as positive or negative. For me, reporting personal experiences or reasonable opinions about a restaurant is information which help people make choices while in Hua Hin, (as long as it's at least semi accurate). Isn't that what this forum is all about? On the other hand, critisising someone for critisising is negative! I suppose by that logic that makes this post kinda negative!

[STEVE G]

Jockey wrote:

On the other hand, critisising someone for critisising is negative! I suppose by that logic that makes this post kinda negative!

Actually in the logical world it doesn’t. If critisising is negative, then it follows that critisising critisism gives you two negatives which will then equal a positive.

[Jockey]

Actually in the logical world it doesn’t. If critisising is negative, then it follows that critisising critisism gives you two negatives which will then equal a positive.

I thought I explained already that critisising restaurants is not negative! Its an opinion or report which helps people make decisions, so actually if anything it could be construed as positive (by alerting someone not to have a similar negative experience), and critisising someone for having a bad experience and reporting it on HHAD is indeed negative, in my (positive) opinion.