Ex-Thai PM 'to face murder charge'

[GLCQuantum]

ARE you REALLY equating drug dealers (hurting innocent people with the filth they peddle and the damage it does to families)

You are a true red Sarge . In reality more than HALF of those 2000+ that Thaksin wiped out, were simply users - NOT sellers. People that were in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Thaksin is a cold blooded murderer who has killed many innocents. Why did he do it? Because his CV isn't adequate enough to give him the know how to tackle a problem like this so.... shoot everyone who is near to those little red tablets was a more appealing choice to him. All Thaksin knows how to do well is amass a fortune from his countrymen and make it look like it's all legit.

More probing matters - The Thaksin's ain't got a clue. Mr Thaksin should have been behind bars long ago.

I personally believe the country was heading in a slightly better direction a while back.... Now we're back with the Thaksin family again - Beggars belief!

[sargeant]

SM i read your tripe with interest right up to when you advertise your lack of intel

I do not recall reading in the press

you should have added or on tv seeing as the ONLY channel that was closed was a red shirt one

the yellow shirt protesters:
used or fired military grade weaponry, from assault rifles to grenade launchers;
fired grenades at crowds of innocent bystanders at a skytrain station;
violently assaulted security forces and took their weapons off them then used these for further attacks;
broke into police and army arsenals and stole weapons;

of course you did not read about it the military did not take them on the dictator forbad it they did not need to

The reason i am the way i am is because i dont read or watch crap slanted either fox or msnbc and i have already called you on that i certainly do not read or believe any media in this country its already bought and not for sale i rely on personal contacts and my own eyes and inteligence
I DO NOT allow anyone thing or body brainwash me and thats with 30 plus years of watchng thai politics behind me
I will give you a challenge you and Takiap pm me and i will email you or you can come and see the photos i have i will supply a bowl for you to puke in and then we will see if you think that crap was justified

[GLCQuantum]

Why was Thaksin kicked out of the UK Sarge? Says a lot that.

[caller]

Politics I guess? The UK has never given a reason as to why his visa was revoked, so I'm not sure what it actually say's?

[MrPlum]

The UK has never given a reason as to why his visa was revoked...

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2008/11 ... 088107.php

'British Foreign Secretary David Miliband said UK decided to revoke visa of ex-Thai prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra after Thai court sentenced him to two years in jail.'

i rely on personal contacts and my own eyes and inteligence I DO NOT allow anyone thing or body brainwash me and thats with 30 plus years of watchng thai politics behind me

Otherwise known as wilful ignorance.

Come on then, all-knowing Oracle.

Who fired the first shot. The soldiers? The reds? The 'men in black'?
Who shot 'Seh Daeng' and what was the motive?
Who gave the order to torch the city?
Were the violent mobs paid or were they acting out of ideology?
Was the violence from the reds spontaneous or pre-meditated? If the latter, who should be held to account?

[Super Joe]

ARE you REALLY equating drug dealers

If you believe it was drug dealers only who got terminated then you need to go do a bit more research Sarge. Thaksin's orders, in effect, were actually to PROTECT the dealers (more like big time traffickers) that work with said security forces. The eradication of drugs was never on the agenda, consolidation of the business, as well as settling any old local score... whether drug or buffalo related... was only agenda.

By all means fill your boots on the 'look how propagandized I am' front... but best not tk do it while lecturing others about how propagandized you think they are!!

We all have our 'favourite' side/colour in this sorry saga, but if ANY of us tries to put a case that team A or B are 'doing the right thing' in any way shape or form... then quite simply we are being deluded bellends. To be Frank. We're in a developing, corrupt third world Asian nation, we KNOW the motives here, Shirley!?


Frank & Shirley

[sargeant]

GLC yes it speaks volumes about Brit duplicity

quote Mr P

Come on then, all-knowing Oracle.

Who fired the first shot. The soldiers? The reds? The 'men in black'?
Who shot 'Seh Daeng' and what was the motive?
Who gave the order to torch the city?
Were the violent mobs paid or were they acting out of ideology?
Was the violence from the reds spontaneous or pre-meditated? If the latter, who should be held to account?

I will take your first line as the smeear crap you always complain about me for, dropped into the gutter i see however even though you are beneath contempt at least i have the decency to answer and debate instead of gossip about innocent people to get my jollies
as for the rest of your post you are asking the wrong man surely your purer than driven snow havashit vegetarian should supply the answers after all he was the UNELECTED PM that should have called for a fully transparent investigation and enquiry after the event seems it slipped their minds

IF HE HAD you would have the answers to your questions now wouldnt you
dont you feel silly right now because you should they were stupid questions wide open for the answer you have just got

I and another member of this forum tried to enlighten people at the time as to who was in charge of the black ninjas we are sure our info is correct and the photos of the dead red shirts nearly all head shot with HOLLOW POINT AMMO speaks a lot feel free anyone to come and have a look bring your own sick bags you will need them

SJ i was not equating drug dealers, others were. my beliefs on that are on a variance to others but never in a million years can that be equated with the shit that went down and the subsequent cover up of the red shirt massacre and no i do NOT blame the military entirely nor havashit but suthep and the dictator get all my wrath

[MrPlum]

...at least i have the decency to answer and debate

You're funny.

[GLCQuantum]

I feel very fortunate that I wasn't struggling in the murky mist of recreational drugs during Thaksin's massacre that he himself imposed upon the people.

It was a few years after I got myself in trouble so Thaksin's blazing guns were long gone. He deserves to be hung for his crimes. No more - No less.

[GLCQuantum]

May I add...

Isn't it true that he got sentenced to 2 years in jail?

Isn't it also true that, rather than serving justified time in jail, he fled his homeland and instead spread his bile via video message?

Isn't it true that the guy is a criminal of the highest order, milking every last baht out of the country for his own personal gain? (read the couple hundred page report Sarge).

Isn't it true that....getting bored of this now.

Open your eyes Sarge.

The Thaksin's are the cancer of this Country.

[Frank Hovis]

Not wanting in on the 'discussion' but aren't hollow point rounds nearly always used in police / riot type situations, to avoid the in and out of a full metal jacketed round with it's unintended collateral damage ?

[GLCQuantum]

'Killing the pushers' is a little bit of a misleading title mind 'Killing everyone in the area' is closer to the truth.

Edit: A lot of this is in Thai btw.

[STEVE G]

A campaign to eradicate drug dealers by extra-judicial killing in 2003 (however popular it might have been), doesn't give you the right to shoot protesters in 2010.

[GLCQuantum]

I agree entirely.

Thousands killed on one side (mostly not drug dealers btw). Many killed on the other side.

Thousands were killed by Thaksin. The many we still aren't quite sure who did it.

A mess nevertheless. A mess that could have been avoided.

I live peacefully knowing that, in true Thai style, Thaksin will live his next life as a cockroach

[STEVE G]

The many we still aren't quite sure who did it.

Which is most probably why the military Junta wasn't interested in prosecuting when they had the chance after the 2006 coup. In the case of the 2010 crackdown, the actual shooters are protected, at least under Thai law, by sweeping emergency powers that gave them immunity for just about anything. This is not the case in the War on Drugs slayings where any investigation could lead to prosecutions of the actual security services involved who were clearly acting beyond any laws.