Bomb attack in Bangkok

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sargeant wrote:Guess apology offered

In a nutshell my overreaction last night comes from your statemen{only 2 obvious candidates spring to mind } in my previous posts i gave 5 candidates and didnt write any of them out
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Yes misunderstood but also not well described by myself. I included the word obvious for the reasons that you have described above.

It was my suspicion that although the explosives and timing devices were easily purchased locally, the detonators may not be so easy to obtain. This is why I am of the opinion that the bombings although very amateurish in their execution must have required, not so much planning but connection to parties able to supply the complete assembly. This fact in itself does not exactly rule out certain factions but does make them more unlikely as candidates. Now the two organizations that would easily be able to get access to such equipment are the TRT and thy Military.

So getting back to motivations which is the key here. Despite that fact that the army is run by a Muslim, it would be crazy for them at this time to make such an attack just at would have been in Hat Yai in September. If one single bomber had been caught the authorities would have linked the whole attack to the Muslims. This would have benefited no one.

To re-iterate and to express the opinion of many of the Thais that I have spoken with (albeit mostly Southerners) is that the disruption is all part of a sustained campaign to make Thailand appear to the outside world and within Thailand itself as a country that is escalating out of control.

When the time comes then it will be "enter stage North" for Thaksin with promises of restoring Thailand to its former glory under his regime. People have very short memories and the many corrupt deals and the selling off of the Thai family silver will be forgotten.

This potential scenario must be avoided at all costs.

As for the FO in London and it's equivalent in the US, warning travel not to travel to Bangkok as it is dangerous is just sheer hypocritical nonsense. I will go along with Pete and say that they should stick their boiler plate warnings up their arses.

Perhaps I should remind them that London is on a par with Belfast and Beirut as being the most bombed city on earth with New York catching up.

In addition to the extremely low risk in all those cities of actually being hit by a bomb in London you have the you have muggers, hoodies and illegal immigrants on every street corner. Also in all cities the number of people killed in road accidents exceeds the number of bomb casualties by about 10 to 100 fold.
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Just read Bangkok Post the police are coming in for some flak from all sides.Seems they had street cleaners clear away important evidence before the forensic team got there.
Just got back from Tesco shopping Mall and went round all 3 floors it was very very busy and suddenly thought god forbid if there was an incident in there - no police presence whatsoever.
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Guess i agree with all of your post except one small statement quote
Now the two organizations that would easily be able to get access to such equipment are the TRT and thy Military. unquote

Why only TRT and the military the opposition are equally able to get access

Why do you insist on eliminating them
they have just as much to gain from it as all the other candidates

I think we should all pray that the innocent side dont retaliate

I am still thunking on this grenade though its very odd in amongst bombs :? :?
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I am still thunking on this grenade though its very odd in amongst bombs :? :?
Just playing devil's advocate, but maybe the grenade is a copycat thing? Somebody with a grudge against MIB, deciding to have a go amidst the chaos? I mean, it was a far more amateur attempt...
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possiby dawn a good point but the timing is weird 3/4 hours after i could understand and your scenario would be pretty good
What doesnt gel is if you are going to plant bombs on timers so you can be a long way to home why have a grenade that is gonna go bang max 50 yards from you and 10-15 seconds after you let it go
dont make sense to me but i will bet there is a reason
I can think of one but i am still working on it i am also waiting to see if they get any forensic from the grenade fragments
It isnt that someone out for the new year just happened to have it in his pocket on the offchance he could join in on something he knew nothing about by the way

Higgy your info tells me the authorities are certainly not excluded and this has all the hallmarks of turning nasty

Lomu makes an excelent point no one has claimed it showing it is a bluff ,double bluff or counter bluff one side trying to blame the other
All it does is muddy the soup even more
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I don't know one thing from another with regard to the bombings, What will come out will be what they (the people in charge of the media) want us to believe, but it all (at the moment) stinks of "I tawt I saw a Pussy cat" aka Tweety Pie as per your 'abattoir'.
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sargeant wrote: It isnt that someone out for the new year just happened to have it in his pocket on the offchance he could join in on something he knew nothing about by the way
Oh, silly me! I thought it was the hip & happening accessory for 2007 :oops: :wink:
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Dead right JD all we will get is what they want us to believe AKA Bush Blair Howard Iraq
I just hope people have learnt from that and WILL ask the questions at least
Dawn as i said you make a good point it could well be somebody taking the opportunity i dont write it off in any way it is still a possibility its just that he whoever he was seems from what i have read must have had excelent reactions to have done it in the time frame
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sargeant wrote: Now the two organizations that would easily be able to get access to such equipment are the TRT and thy Military. Why only TRT and the military the opposition are equally able to get access

Not the only ones able but the parties that have them most readily to hand. I really meant the government rather than specifically the TRT. But as the government was wholly run by the TRT until April 3rd and then caretakered by the TRT until September 19th you may as well consider it the same thing.

Anyway since my original posting I have actually moved a little more center but still maintain that the party with the most to gain form disruption within Thailand is the TRT.

Scenario. Thailand is spiraling out of control (words from the satanist publication UK Times).
Solution. Thaksin and TRT propose to the whole world that they return and hold a swift election. As in the loss of Sadam Hussein the locals said that they agreed that he was a bad man but life was better under him than his replacement. This could apply to Thaksin.


Why do you insist on eliminating them
they have just as much to gain from it as all the other candidates

I don't understand what you are stating that I am eliminating. You were discussing the TRT and then used the word them indicating TRT. I am stating the opposite that I believ the most likely of many possibilities is the TRT or its supporters.
This is all academic anyway we will never find out the truth.
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I am a very simple man and by not including you are therefore eliminating
e.g in the unlikely event of me visiting your bar again and you tell me you have chang and singh please dont be surprised if i presume you dont sell hieneken and leave
ABC australia tv is a satanist tv channel and now the Times is a satanist paper ( i cant wait to hear your logic for that ) is there any media outlet that you agree with other than the bangkok post
Please reread the post it was absolutely crystal clear that it was opposition i was talking about that you had refused to even mention in your posts
I named the TRT the opposition (Pathet Thai) the incumbant govt the muslims and breakaway TRT 5 different candidates to your 2 one of which was so out there it left only one TRT
Unlike you i put them all in there order of my belief based on unbiased and experienced analysis i do not write any one of them out and still dont
If you read my posts i said i could not understand the hand grenade and was interested in the forensics Funny aint it, guess what no forensic it got swept up the only grenade site and the street cleaners swept it up Old mr t is back he was out there with a dustpan & brush
I am informed a male was paraded on tv mrs Sarge told me he was the BKK bomb man but him no have legs Wonderful I bet he voted TRT
You are obviously such a TRT Mrt hater you cannot anylise with an open mind
I on the other hand want the CORRECT perps (and dont care who they are)caught punished and this stopped it is not good for the people of this lovely country
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Sarge with all your comments

I'am a humble guest of this country and will continue to keep a low profile. It is nothing we can do anything about and at the end of the day

1) It's the Thais to sort
2) If we dont like it - move on

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Post by dr dave soul monsta »

Who ever did are a very sad & sick bunch of individuals pulling a cowardly publicity stunt .............TRT or the miltary Gov , the muslims or who ever,
the only achievement is to damage the countries reputation even more which is on a fast downward spiral as it is.......

If this had been a serious attack the devices would have been placed for maximun effect both human and property
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Richard i agree wholeheartedly taking a position on one side or the other is a loser position full stop.
I have been at great pains to not to make a definitive judgement and only list the possibilitys and i have also stressed that i do not rule any of them out
I also (unbelievably)agree with guess it is academic we will never know the whole truth unfortunately
I do however believe the questions should be asked purely so that when answers come or do not come personal decisions can be made in some knowledgable way ie stay or go
I also believe if questions had been asked of Bush Blair Howard and Mr T maybe just maybe the world might not be as danderous as it is right now

Dr Dave bang on but for three people it was to maximum effect only one was required for that and that would be one too many

Last point my first wife came from Bulawayo her family still live there
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