Mr. Dumb wrote:Just a few points, and this is without supporting the other party.
During my time in the military I was taught that unless time is of the essence you never make assumptions, you gather all possible information, you assess all information gathered, you prepare responses based on the information gathered and have back up plans, you prepare your own resources and you take action at a time to suit you
Some other points.
1. There are no children involved
2. No one has any proof that there is another man involved or any family pressure so really no one has the right to make such suggestion, it is very easy for anyone to make unfounded accusations. In fact via my lawyer the family has been contacted and the mother and father are traveling here on Tuesday to meet with me and maybe their daughter if they can contact her.
3. I have an excellent paper trail of all transactions both business and private, to be honest I am somewhat of a nut on keeping records. More people should keep better records of their finances.
4. To sell of assets in haste is one of the worst mistakes anyone can ever make and to do this to hide information from the law would be a terrible mistake. Someone stated “What you haven’t got she can’t get a share of” this is 100% INCORRECT as I can still be held liable for those assets.
5. 4m per year for 6 years is 24m, this is a lot of money however it is nowhere near 50% of our assets so in reality this could be a reasonable settlement fee to gain quick closure of a difficult situation. In business it is not uncommon to make large settlements to mitigate the possibility of much higher costs should the issue be prolonged, just look at the settlements the big banks have made in recent months all with the proviso that all future litigation be stopped. It is called putting a cap on your liabilities.
6. As for the people who suggest driving in different cars, carry a stun gun, carry pepper spray, and change your routine, my god you have been watching to many spy movies. If you are so scared to be in Hua Hin then leave here.
I wonder why you ask for advice and help in the first place,but good luck to you anyway.
everyone asks for advice because they believe they need it, in my case as I did need it, many good points where offered some not so good, so I gratefully accept the good and ignore the not so good.
Some people have sent PM's unfortunately I can't read them, maybe if you send again in a few days I may have the required number of posts to allow me access.
There's a lot of terrific advice on this thread for people with substantial assets thinking of getting married to a Thai girlfriend. The fact that most of it has come from Mr Not-So-Dumb is amusing, but irrelevant to anyone else who might need it.
Give the guy a break, he is going through a tough time, probably doesn't want to hear that his missus did things wrong behind his back and is very hurt. My take on the tone of his post at the end of page 3 he seems stressed out. Give support not deride the guy.
I went through a divorce in Thailand a little while back it was real stressful even if in the end things did work out very well for me financially.
I think most Farangs do not have any idea of their rights in Thailand. Far to many take their advice from experts who spend all of their time in bars.
"Mr Dumb" it sounds like you have reached the conclusion that you should just give her what she wants (number 5). Probably the best idea. Then you wont have to deal with the possibility of number 6. Most of the advice has been good and most of it from people who have lived in Thailand a lot longer than yourself. Thailand is a very safe place to live, until you get into conflict with Thai people, and then it becomes a very dangerous place to live. They have different ideas with how to deal with conflict and "loss of face". So we haven't been watching too many movies, just watching what goes on over the years. You are probably best to make a settlement deal with her and then get on with your life and your business.
kendo wrote:Hua Hin is very safe place for most, but I can think of five murders over the years and one attempted murder all disputes or greed and in Hua Hin.
How many years? 5 isn't a very big number in the scheme of things. I'm pretty sure I would have read about at least one every couple of years in my hometown - maybe more (I wasn't counting). And over a lot smaller things than land/marriage disputes.
How many years? 5 isn't a very big number in the scheme of things. I'm pretty sure I would have read about at least one every couple of years in my hometown - maybe more (I wasn't counting). And over a lot smaller things than land/marriage disputes.
I think he might be talking about the number of farangs that have been murdered here, not the total number of all murders?
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For 24 million I'll shave my legs and be right over.
Can't help thinking I'm witnessing a robbery where the victim is allowing the burglar to get away with their swag. The law is an ass. With no children involved and being capable of fending for herself, why provide her with the means to go on an asset-stripping exercise? Any private settlement you come up with, her lawyers will be whispering in her ear... "You can get more". Lawyers are no better than cockroaches. As soon as they get involved divorce becomes adversarial. Their very existence guarantees it.
The best film I've seen on this was 'The War of The Roses' with Michael Douglas. Should put anyone off marriage. Forever!
On the other hand, if you had 4 good years of bliss and she's simply changed her mind then a pay-off may be palatable. I thought you yanks were good on Prenups?
I really appreciate the time each member has given in considering the situation and posting their response, many are very good and ALL post make me consider my position and future actions.
For those concerned about security I will not be spending much time in HH in the coming month or two as I have trips planned overseas. beyond that I will have to consider.
I do not now where people are coming up with the idea I am going to settle with a 24m payment, that is her request and I have only stated that this is far less than 50% off our assets. I have worked long and hard in reaching my present status and I have no plans to give it away without the biggest fight she has ever seen.
If you read my posts my lawyer has suggest a settlement of 2m.
By the way Chavalit Finch charge 8,000baht / US$262 per hour plus expenses to negotiate and they will not follow through with litigation (going to court) should it go that far.
Mr. Dumb wrote:I do not now where people are coming up with the idea I am going to settle with a 24m payment
From here...
Mr. Dumb wrote:5. 4m per year for 6 years is 24m, this is a lot of money however it is nowhere near 50% of our assets so in reality this could be a reasonable settlement fee to gain quick closure of a difficult situation.
I have worked long and hard in reaching my present status and I have no plans to give it away without the biggest fight she has ever seen.
If you read my posts my lawyer has suggest a settlement of 2m.
I wish you the very best of luck with it all and hope you've overcome your shock and what must be major disappointment.
