O.D.D. And i thought he was a little shit

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O.D.D. And i thought he was a little shit

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This from the Daily Mail today.

Don't give my son an Asbo, he's just got a bit of ODD (that's Oppositional Defiant Disorder)

Police have described him as a ‘one-boy wave of terror’ and even his mother refers to him as the ‘Satan child’.
Sonny Grainger is just 12, but he has already been expelled from three schools and terrorised neighbours on his council estate countless times.
Now he has been named and shamed by magistrates, and told he will be locked up if he continues with his criminal behaviour
But his long- suffering mother insists that he needs medical help rather than custody because he suffers from oppositional defiant disorder (ODD), which causes him to be hostile to authority figures.
Sonny, from the Boothferry estate in Hull, has stolen cars, started fires, assaulted neighbours with bottles, eggs, stones and sticks and even smashed the windows in his own home after being told off for bad behaviour.
He tends to sleep for only two hours a night and has tablets to sedate him in the evening.
When the authorities recently imposed an anti-social behaviour order on him he broke it within two hours and was tagged as a result.
He has been banned from seven streets on the estate, being in a group of at least five, carrying sticks, stones, matches or a cigarette lighter in public and is subjected to a strict curfew.
PC Trevor Needham, the neighbourhood-beat officer, said: ‘Sonny Grainger has caused untold misery for the estate. It is actually unbelievable just how bad this lad was.
‘He has been a one-boy wave of terror and the way he was going about driving cars and setting fires, I honestly believed it was only a matter of time before he killed someone.
‘The boy does know the difference between right and wrong, and this asbo is a last-ditch attempt to change his behaviour.’
Sonny’s jobless single mother Nadine West, 38, who has three other children, said: ‘I have done everything in my power to rein him in, but he just does not listen to me.’
Miss West said she had reported Sonny to the police and carried out frantic late-night searches of the estate with friends and relatives when he disappeared.
She said the pattern of bad behaviour began at the age of seven. Sonny has even been suspended from the special behavioural unit he now attends instead of mainstream school.
She said: ‘The teachers at his school have been involved, social services have, I have been to family therapy, and I have seen educational therapists, child psychiatrists, mental health workers and doctors.
‘I am not saying I have not received help – I just don’t think I have received the right help. I will not give up on him. I love him.

'I want him to get the right help, so people can see the loving, caring.

Reason to leave the UK no. 47.
Maybe i am just a smidgen grumpy after a long night shift picking up similiar types.
Drunk abusive & basically anti social bottoms.
Not there fault.
They have mental health issues.
Well so have i.
I work and i love to be a punch bag.
And i love paying my National insurance to pay for there alcohol & drugs.
Right.
Off to bed to dream of retiring to Hui Hin.
When i can moan about something else. :twisted:
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Anyone who is familiar with Boothferry Estate will not be surprised by this story.
What is surprising is that the mother has managed to come up with a diagnosis of 'ODD'. Sorry - but it's a new one on me, and clearly not to be confused with ADD, ADHD, and other sets of initials which are applied to dysfunctional children.
Let's just say that the Estate in question is served by buses which have CCTV and reinforced (probably bullet proof) screens around the drivers. They don't even bother to put new buses on that route, but use the oldest vehicles available. Or maybe they just get battered more quickly than the Bransholme buses.
Boothferry Estate itself is a No Go area at night, and for anyone who values their life is best avoided during the day as well.
Sadly I'm not joking - and feel sorry for those residents who are just trying to lead a peaceful life, and can't find, or afford, housing anywhere else. :guns:
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Breaking rocks in the hot sun for a while would "reconfigure" the attitude but the wishy-washy woolly approach always seem to prevail, incidently with little effect. :roll:

My apologies for the quick :rant: Margaret, I'm sure you are much more experienced than me about this, just the Joe public's average attitude.

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Breaking rocks in the hot sun for a while would "reconfigure" the attitude
Are you suggesting that they should reward him by sending him to a warmer clime? Surely, that would encourage more :D
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What ever happened to putting a bad apple into the Services to get him straightened out? This one's a bit young but he won't be in 4-5 years. Some Army or Marine drill sergeant I have no doubt will put the fear of God into him in one way or the other.

I think in the States judges still give bad kids a choice of jail or a 4 year enlistment. Not done as much as before but I think still happens. Pete :cheers:
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Hmm, hang on, Pete - you've got a violent thug who delights in hurting people and causing damage and mayhem wherever he can, so what do you do to punish him? Stick him in the army? Seems to be a slight contradiction there somewhere...
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Ha ha Big Boy, not at all. Just quoting "The Clash", you know, "I fought the law and the law won."

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dtaai-maai wrote:Hmm, hang on, Pete - you've got a violent thug who delights in hurting people and causing damage and mayhem wherever he can, so what do you do to punish him? Stick him in the army? Seems to be a slight contradiction there somewhere...


:lach: The purpose is to teach him self control and funnel all of that energy into useful military activities. They're really good at it and guarantee he'll become a team player. "Give me the boy and we'll return the man" :wink: Pete :cheers:
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Whip the little bastard with a length of barbed wire for a couple of hours and then roll him in salt.

That'll learn 'im...
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Randy Cornhole wrote:Whip the little bastard with a length of barbed wire for a couple of hours and then roll him in salt.

That'll learn 'im...
Easy Randy, the torture thread will get resurrected again. :shock: Pete :cheers:
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Spitfire - rant accepted - no probs. I agree. And the sad thing is that this won't be an isolated case by any means. (Another problem of course is that some people won't believe it, or we get accused again of moaning about the state of the Universe.) :wink:
It's not moaning, just observation of a fact of life. Petes point is a valid one, about the army option. Maybe a bit of a sensitive issue in the UK though, with strong feelings about loss of life in extended conflicts. But IMO the agression could be channelled in other ways by a stint in the forces.
Coincidence though that 'Sonny' is just another problem kid with a single Mum. Another kid who has no doubt learnt that teachers can't touch him, and neither can the Police. We've covered all this ground before and there doesn't seem to be a workable answer.
The future for 'Sonny' and his mates is especially grim, because he lives in the city which now has the highest Uk unemployment rate for under 25s.
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The perfect cure for anti socal families is to isolate them from mainstream society

there are plenty of open spaces with lots of buildng space and fresh air.....we call them the Outer Hebrides

and people ask why I moved here......

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When did you move to the Outer Hebrides then SM? :wink:
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think of the anguish of those poor sheep on the OH SM. What have they done to deserve this SM?
However the idea of a rock in the middle of the Ocean does have merit. Devil's island perhaps?
I think compulsory sterilisation &/or a 1 way ticket to Afghanistan to take up Jihad would also be worth considering.
In 1 of my lives as a teacher (maths/science) they used to send the unruly to a well equipped house on the school grounds where they could explore other avenues of expression. Strange how some would line up to go rather than actually try to attempt something where they have to think.
I really feel sorry for those poor other b-tards on the estate who appear to be bullied and threatened by a scrote who for all intents should not be there and breathing air!
Strangely reminiscent of Redfern in Sydney.
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He is no good to society and will not change....Simple answer .... shoot him :guns:
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