Here's a YouTube video of how students are treated in a Catholic school in Nakhon Ratchasima because their rooms were untidy.
The teacher/s has been sacked and there's a criminal investigation going on. This is a school that high fees are payed at for attendance and is rumoured to not be unusual treatment in general.
I was a year in a Catholic school in Rome, Italy, and that's only 53 years ago, but I can't say I bear any physical marks to prove it.
What are such teachers influenced by?
I suspect the mobile phone recordings on You Tube must have been shot in the late 1880's or perhaps in the early 1900's when we didn't know how to cope with situations like this.
OK guys, I won't argue - it might be that I'm getting a poor quality download from YouTube. The punishment is not that clear, but doesn't look too severe on my laptop. From memory, I never ever received a single stroke of the cane - it was a minimum of 2, and a maximum of 6.
One of the Technical schools should hire that guy and turn him loose on the student gang bangers. My direct experience in Catholic school was only a long wooden pointer stick across the knuckle side of your hand. Very debatable which hurts most, the butt caning or the knuckle caning. They would always do the hand you didn't write with, for obvious reasons. Pete
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"Spare the rod, spoil the child"... I think parents and teachers mollycoddle children too much these days (partially due to newer laws) and that's why we have so many kids that grow up to be lay-abouts (or worse).
I was beaten by school teachers (when deserved and sometimes in more questionable circumstances) and by my parents (especially a second time if they heard I got a beating at school; they would beat me again for doing whatever I did to receive the beating from the teacher), and I've been responsible, hard working, self supporting, and (mostly) honest all my adult life (since age 19 when I left the nest).
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hhfarang wrote:"Spare the rod, spoil the child"... I think parents and teachers mollycoddle children too much these days (partially due to newer laws) and that's why we have so many kids that grow up to be lay-abouts (or worse).
I was beaten by school teachers (when deserved and sometimes in more questionable circumstances) and by my parents (especially a second time if they heard I got a beating at school; they would beat me again for doing whatever I did to receive the beating from the teacher), and I've been responsible, hard working, self supporting, and (mostly) honest all my adult life (since age 19 when I left the nest).
Are you sure you're not talking about me.....lol. Truer words have never been spoken.
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Oh deary me, they each got one lash with the cane. I bet they'll need to go for counseling, and will probably be scarred for life, mentally.
Sorry guys, I'm a bit old school, and if you ask me, there should be a bit more caning taking place, not only here in Thailand, but everywhere. Hell, we used to get two lashes just for chewing gum or eating in a classroom. Running in the corridors, and that got you another two, and if your test results were below a certain mark, as laid down by the teacher, you got some more. I remember my science teacher in particular..........when I first joined his class, I failed each and every test and exam. By the time I finished school, I never got below 80% for any of his tests or for my science exam. Why, because he did his job, no matter what it took, and today I thank him.
Teachers can no longer discipline kids in school, and in most of Europe, parents can't discipline at home, and yet just the other day when those school kids got shot by other kids, many members on here commented about parents not controlling their kids??????????????????????????
Had I been caught carrying a knife at school, it would have been six of the best, and if it happened a second time, I would have been kicked out of the school. At that sort of discipline was upheld in every school.
When I was a kid, I can't recall ever getting a hiding from my Dad, and yet I was wise enough to know that if I pushed things too far, I would get one, and one I would have remembered for the rest of my life. Maybe that's why all my parent's kids grew up without becoming living trash.
Sure, girls are different, and I certainly wouldn't condone a girl getting caned, but boys will be boys, and boys are not the same as girls.
My own daughter has been given a smack on her hands with a ruler this year at school (not on the knuckle side). It's only happened once, and she was even really pleased with herself because she didn't cry (bless her). When I mentioned this to someone I know, they said I should kick up a stink about it?? Why? In my eyes, the teacher is doing her job. I think most Thai teachers take their job too lightly. Last year my girl was with a lovely Thai lady teacher who would never dream of doing such a thing. This year she's with a different lady teacher, and this one is serious about her job. Now I have to ask myself why my girl has not had her hand smacked again. Simply because that first smack on the hand did what it was meant to do.....it taught her a lesson, and besides, I doubt it was very painful, so no harm done.
Now, on a slightly different note, yes the teacher in the clip did seem to be enjoying it, and of course that in my eyes is a bit sick. What I also noticed though, is that nobody rubbed their backside. Damn, when I was caned I could barely sit down. I wonder if I could get my school taken to court?
Don't try to impress me with your manner of dress cos a monkey himself is a monkey no less - cold fact
I don't agree with your sentiments BB, This asshole was loving it and on a power trip.
If one of those lads was my son I'd have used that cane repeatedly on the teachers face.
Yes, and then your son wouldn't have a father because you'd be in prison. If kids simply refuse to do as their teacher tells them, what should the teacher do? If your son fails all the time, will you keep putting him in a different school, and always blame the teachers? And then, when your son grows up poorly educated, you blame the system, saying the schools failed him.
Not having a go at you, but just curious how, as a teacher, you would deal with problem kids.
Don't try to impress me with your manner of dress cos a monkey himself is a monkey no less - cold fact
Teachers are in fear of their lives in U.S. public (government) schools because they cannot even defend themselves against a violent student without getting sued or losing their jobs. The lack of respect and discipline of the students is one reason the American school system is in a shambles now, graduating kids that can't even write enough to sign their own names.
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Exactly, I'm with you on this one HHF, and it's happening everywhere nowadays. In fact, I think Thailand isn't doing toooo bad. At least in the school my girls attend, the kids still show teachers respect. Of course that probably all changes as they get into the higher grades. I would rather have my kids grow up to be decent people with a relatively decent education than have to worry over trivial things such as an occasional smack.
Besides, I wouldn't be surprised if I dish out a few good smacks to the kids of other parents, once those kids start trying to pull into my girls when they're older. My wife thinks I'm crazy because I've told her any and all boyfriends will receive a speech and a warning from me if they intend dating my daughters. Oh, and yes I do mean it
Don't try to impress me with your manner of dress cos a monkey himself is a monkey no less - cold fact
I think that if respect politeness and good conduct are taught at home from a young age by the parent there is no need for violence. If a child starts school and is well mannered and disciplined the need for a teacher to use physical punishment is unnecessary.In my opinion it is my job to decide upon the level of discipline for my child. A teacher is meant to be a role model for the way a child should act.Teaching that violence is a suitable method to chastise encourages bullying.
Most schools that have high discipline problems are generally in the West,from low income/ single parent/ public housing situations and areas. These areas are where kids start life with poor parenting and are surrounded by bad examples from their peers.
In Thailand I think it is the opposite. The children of well off families are usually the worst behaved. From what I have seen the children in Thailand are given everything possible and grow up without respect for anyone or thing outside their family.Resulting in a child that will not be disciplined. A teacher who has to face this type of child must get very frustrated especially when the pupils know that whatever happens the parent has already bought the education along with the guaranteed graduation.This frustration I believe is the cause of many a teacher using unnecessary violence.
The answer in my opinion is in this type of situation someone within the school ( headmaster ?) should be designated to dole out punishment.
The punishment methods should be laid out for the parent and child to understand and agree before starting the school.
My direct experience in Catholic school was only a long wooden pointer stick across the knuckle side of your hand. Very debatable which hurts most, the butt caning or the knuckle caning. They would always do the hand you didn't write with, for obvious reasons. 
Pete 
Oh, and yes I do mean it 
