Getting something legal for your money

[huahinsimon]

When in the process of buying a house off-plan should the buyer get some legal papers, documents, etc, giving him/her a valid interest in the home and or property?

If you buy a house for ten million, and payments are set up of five milestones of 2 million each, at what point, if any, should the buyer get a valid legal claim to the property albeit with a lein for the balance?

[Super Joe]

What documents are you talking about ? You have a legal document, a contract.
The contract should state a payment schedule and completion date. Upon completion and normally final payment land title and Tabien Bahn will be registered in new owners name.
The developer retains ownership of the property until you pay for it as per the contract terms.
Im not sure about your particular situation as I understand you could'nt make your final payment and therefore defaulted on your contract. Therefore a new agreement should have be entered into.
What ownership documents did your lawyer have included in the contract ........

[kendo]

Huahin Simon, dont you think, it is good sence to make a contract with stage payments, an agreement between YOU and the developer as i recall another poster adviced you not to buy from your developer, but with a lot of advice given on this forum you dont really take it on board you dress your agenda up in different ways, to give it longevity and it really is starting to get boring, your question is so open ended.If you agree to buy a house off plan read the small print ask the questions, wot if this, or wot if that, it's an agreement between you and the developer, i would say the house is the developers responsibility untill he hands it over officially .If you dont do your home work all fool you, i would want to see other developments and talk to other home owners and check the developers track record.I think for the money you have spent you could have project managed your dream, and built your house for less than half the cost, and got things right the first time, your dream has become your personal nightmare that you want to inflict on to everyone else, why dont you sale up, and build yourself it is a great personal achivement, otherwise where's this going to end, cracking up under the strain, affecting your health, this is not really happy retirement is it, the whole issue is really eating you up in an unhealthy way.

[Super Joe]

Kendo is right Si, it is getting boring.
Bottom line is you did not employ a proper lawyer. And now you are having legal problems you still wont employ one but instead ask advice from anonymous internet posters.You are naive beyond belief my friend.
This whole thing is consuming your life and eating you up while I suspect your opposition barely gives it a thought.

Hope this helps.

SJ

[DawnHRD]

I would imagine you would try & get these documents as soon as is humanly possible. But, not having bought a house & just renting, I must be mistaken. So, my starter for 10 would be: after getting at least 15 replies from members of an anonymous internet forum.

Do I win?

[malcolminthemiddle]

When in the process of buying a house off-plan should the buyer get some legal papers, documents, etc, giving him/her a valid interest in the home and or property?

If you buy a house for ten million, and payments are set up of five milestones of 2 million each, at what point, if any, should the buyer get a valid legal claim to the property albeit with a lein for the balance?

Q1. The buyer should first establish his legal right to the land before construction starts.

Q2. Assuming the 10 million is for the house only, valid legal claim to any construction work carried out on the land before or after payment for that construction work, would be subject to legal opinion according to Thai law.

[huahinsimon]

Kendo is right Si, it is getting boring.
Bottom line is you did not employ a proper lawyer. And now you are

SJ

I just can't get rid of you Joe. you're like a bad smell --just keep hanging around

If its so boring stay off the thread.

The question was posed in relation to info for the associations next meeting. has nothing to do with my agenda, which is only to get what i paid for which you developers think is OUTRAGEOUS. GET WHAT HE PAID FOR--WHAT PLANET DOES HE COME FROM!!


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I heard or read some place that a building permit can be and should be put in the buyers name when they have made some payments. It means the house is being built for them not for the builder, was the rational

You know contacts here are about worthless. Like in my boring case. The greek got the money, built shite and etc.

What the consumer group wants to do is find ways to protect the punters from grab it and run guys like ....

I surse am glad the 800lb gorilla came to town in the form of Engles and Voelker. I hope they got the clout to clean up this nest of vipers.

[lindosfan1]

The question was posed in relation to info for the associations next meeting.
This was not mentioned in your opening of this thread.

has nothing to do with my agenda, which is only to get what i paid for which you developers think is OUTRAGEOUS. GET WHAT HE PAID FOR--WHAT PLANET DOES HE COME FROM!!

Why are you shouting like a demented idiot what has this to do with the thread

I think you have started this thread to have another rant. If you employed a good lawyer and listened to good advice you would not be in the position you are now. Which in my innnocent view is someone who is trying to prove to the world that his brain cell is lonely

[Super Joe]

I just can't get rid of you Joe. you're like a bad smell -just keep hanging around

LOL, says the person who I've had 12 PM's from and several requests for personal meetings with local real estate agents to try and assist him. Not to mention trying to force private emails and correspondence, between you are several developers, onto me to review. Of course I refused all this.
It is strange that since I've found out some facts about you and questioned you about it, you drop me like a led ballon. I'm hurt and feel used

I heard or read some place that a building permit can be and should be put in the buyers name when they have made some payments

'Should' - not necessarily, depends on the type of contract you have with developer.
IMO this is about your agenda, you have asked the same thing about Building Permits elsewhere. 1.5 Million posts on here about your agenda and now 1 that is not. We should have known

SJ

[Norseman]

If you guys don't qualm down and keep cool this thread will be locked asap.
What amazes me is the need of it, but each to his own.

[lindosfan1]

Norseman sorry but I know a lot of people are hasppy with there houses here but the only thing that seems to appear here is hhs ranting about his house it does not paint a true or good picture of Hua Hin

[chelsea]

HHS you have been given so much good advice that you have obviously not taken, so in my mind you have not taken this advice and deserve all the problems that you are having.
Please go take up your gripes with the people that you have the problems with and not bore the shit out of everyone else on this board that really do not want to know any more stories of your ongoing problems that you cannot seem to fix.
Personally I really hope that the mods close any further posts that relate to your personal problems with your developers as this is never going to end and will continue on an ongoing basis.
Your ongoing saga sounds more like a Monty Python episode that an business transaction than has gone wrong with you staring as Basil storming around your property tearing your hair out.
I bet that the greek just call you stupid malaka

[kendo]

Norseman sorry but I know a lot of people are hasppy with there houses here but the only thing that seems to appear here is hhs ranting about his house it does not paint a true or good picture of Hua Hin

I think his 1 man crusade is going to damage the local real estate market making comments like the nest of vipers, i think he is starting to loose the plot a little bit, if i was going to retire and start a new life in HH i would have serious dowts about buying here. He has been warned before for useing this forum for his own agenda but he dresses it up to keep it going, his last comments had loads of refference to his own agenda but he can not even realise this, and then go's on the offensive.

[redzonerocker]

Norseman sorry but I know a lot of people are hasppy with there houses here but the only thing that seems to appear here is hhs ranting about his house it does not paint a true or good picture of Hua Hin

i'm sure there are a lot of people happy with their houses, but if everything is so open & honest in the property market, why is there a need for the creation of an association of developers & agents to regulate things ???
maybe hhs gets carried away with his posts sometimes, but right or wrong he still has the right to express his opinions & thoughts.
if it becomes tedious there is the choice of not to read it or just take it with a pinch of salt
if it becomes offensive i'm sure the mod's will regulate as necessary

[Norseman]

As been told again and again there are a few unhappy buyers out here.
The majority however, is quite happy and satisfied with their homes.
I am among the happy owners, but I understand that others have been screwed by a few developers.
They do have the right to complain and a hope or wish to warn other potential buyers, but as far as I know most of the developers are hard working people with a wish to make good houses and have satisfied customers.
I personally don't know any buyers that have been tricked or screwed by any developer, but that doesn't mean that nobody has been screwed.

This forum is however not interested in anonymous blacken of either developers, members of the forum or anybody else with the goal to convince the readers that everything is wrong in the developers camp in Hua Hin.
It's not!!

Heated discussions are all right up to a certain point, but please be aware of our rules of engagement.