Pension Rights for British expats

[STEVE G]

......do not contribute to the UK either through Taxes (in the form of personal taxation, VAT etc) or in being a Consumer and contributing to the UK economy whether it is to the Public Sector (the NHS for example) or the private sector (goods and services), by living in the UK.

I don't agree with it as I probably be in the same boat one day but unfortunately this is the crux of the matter, pensions paid overseas is money lost to the economy as a whole. In other countries, there will be some retirees leaving and taking their pensions overseas and others coming from elsewhere and brining their pensions in, so overall there is little effect on the economy but how many outsiders choose the UK as a retirement destination?

[sargeant]

DB i understand that i must pay tax

But as i see it this is fundamentaly wrong on many levels

1.- I paid into a COMPULSORY scheme exactely the same as those that do get the raises i therefore should get treated the same, NO ONE ever said but dont leave the country. and i was never given an option to opt out
2.- A lot of those that do get the raises pay no tax at all but get benefits to make up their income costing the taxpayer even more To say nothing of the huge cost to the NHS
3.- Having to pay tax but not recieve the raises means with both the taxes i pay plus the raises i dont recieve i am paying not only for the pensions of the above but also have to pay for their rises and their benefits as well. To say nothing about the savings to the NHS i contribute to
4.- People in say Barbados/Jamaica for examples get the rises but are still as STeve G puts it is money lost to the economy as a whole.
5.- If a private pension fund had this discriminaton in its fund it would be sued successfully but would probably go bust toot sweet quick

[Dannie Boy]

DB i understand that i must pay tax

But as i see it this is fundamentaly wrong on many levels

1.- I paid into a COMPULSORY scheme exactely the same as those that do get the raises i therefore should get treated the same, NO ONE ever said but dont leave the country. and i was never given an option to opt out
2.- A lot of those that do get the raises pay no tax at all but get benefits to make up their income costing the taxpayer even more To say nothing of the huge cost to the NHS
3.- Having to pay tax but not recieve the raises means with both the taxes i pay plus the raises i dont recieve i am paying not only for the pensions of the above but also have to pay for their rises and their benefits as well. To say nothing about the savings to the NHS i contribute to
4.- People in say Barbados/Jamaica for examples get the rises but are still as STeve G puts it is money lost to the economy as a whole.
5.- If a private pension fund had this discriminaton in its fund it would be sued successfully but would probably go bust toot sweet quick

Well Sarge, you and all like-minded pensioners can now vote their voice of disapproval to the "tax scandal" by logging onto the following link and signing the petition. http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/38618

[RAGE_715]

I just signed.. but it says total signatures.... 1. Just me then?

[Dannie Boy]

I just signed.. but it says total signatures.... 1. Just me then?

Well it was only released half an hour ago - give it a week and we might be nudging a 1,000.......... so that just leaves another 99,000 to go!!!

[sargeant]

I just signed in and it said two

I filled out the form entered my vote
went to email clicked on the link and it still said only two votes

[richard]

I've made it 3 and banged it on FB

If anybody's got a phone-book or electoral roll we could really hit the 100,000

[margaretcarnes]

Sarge please don't shout at me but I'm surprised you didn't realise this was going to happen? It's been a topic several times on here. That doesn't make it right but it is law....I think I'd better sign that petition now....

[sargeant]

Mags i would never shout at you

To be honest i did not think i would get any where near as much as i have and to be honest again it seemed immaterial to me with the previous mindset to take much notice

It wasnt until i read the bumf that it hit home just how UNJUST it really is
Add the coincidence of Kate and Drummond and my postman
It also seemed a lost cause or another of those wrongs that just never get put right but now we have an avenue ie the vote i urge everybody tell people and even help them vote

[Big Boy]

I've tried to sign it a couple of times, and all I get is:

One way of making sure it doesn't go anywhere I suppose.

[GLCQuantum]

I signed it no problem (currently at 8 signatures).

Well, that's my good deed for the day done - Helping the elderly.

[Big Boy]

Well, I've eventually managed to sign it, but it is still at 8 signatures.

[GLCQuantum]

Strange that. Maybe there's a slight delay when tallying up the signatures?

[Big Boy]

Or maybe it's as honest as the Government we're petitioning.

[Dannie Boy]

Strange that. Maybe there's a slight delay when tallying up the signatures?

I've just checked it and it is now 10, so just 99,990 to go!!