Thaksin to groom son as party MP

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bigideas wrote:The reason why Abhisit has not entered the UK since, is that he may be arrested for crimes against humanity. It was a disgrace. In comparison, I don't believe 10 Yellow Shirts have lost their lives for their cause.
Do you have a legitimate source for this rumour?

The reason the yellows were not shot is because they sat in the airport having barbeques and singing folk songs (and something else we cant discuss here). The reds where shot at because they torched public buildings, used military grade weapons (M79 grenade launchers), and had their own undercover, heavily armed and funded, militia embedded in with them. I agree that any kind of heavy handed crackdown on the public is a disgrace and the army should be held accountable but to compare the two groups is like comparing fundamentalist terrorists hellbent on destruction (they were instructed by their leaders to burn Bangkok) with hippy CND protestors sitting around a campfire.

Anyway :offtopic: which IMO will only bring about a re-emergence of these events, more violence, more bloodshed, and more of Thailand's money into the Shinawatra coffers. In short no good whatsoever for anybody but their own family.
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GLCQuantum wrote:
The reason why Abhisit has not entered the UK since, is that he may be arrested for crimes against humanity.
Not true.

I agree, if the UK wanted to arrest him for crimes against huminity, then they would have pounce on Taksin before he even had a chance to get off the plane when he visited the country. After all, he has the blood of far more people on his hands, several thousand people actually.

Also let's not forget that with the Bangkok fiasco, it was not as simple as a mere Red Shirt vs. Thai military. There were others involved as well.


Anyway, :offtopic: The point remains that Thaksin's son has never even have a proper job, so you tell me, how on earth can one expect him to lead a country forward, regardless of how much you love the guy. This is clearly not about the future of Thailand.....it's about power.


Anyway, Farang opinions mean absolutely nothing, just as world opinion means nothing to Thailand, so rather than pretend we can make some sort of a difference, let's stay focused on enjoying our lives here while we still can.



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Takiap wrote: Anyway, Farang opinions mean absolutely nothing, just as world opinion means nothing to Thailand, so rather than pretend we can make some sort of a difference, let's stay focused on enjoying our lives here while we still can.
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buksida wrote:
bigideas wrote:The reason why Abhisit has not entered the UK since, is that he may be arrested for crimes against humanity. It was a disgrace. In comparison, I don't believe 10 Yellow Shirts have lost their lives for their cause.
Do you have a legitimate source for this rumour?

The reason the yellows were not shot is because they sat in the airport having barbeques and singing folk songs (and something else we cant discuss here). The reds where shot at because they torched public buildings, used military grade weapons (M79 grenade launchers), and had their own undercover, heavily armed and funded, militia embedded in with them. I agree that any kind of heavy handed crackdown on the public is a disgrace and the army should be held accountable but to compare the two groups is like comparing fundamentalist terrorists hellbent on destruction (they were instructed by their leaders to burn Bangkok) with hippy CND protestors sitting around a campfire.

Anyway :offtopic: which IMO will only bring about a re-emergence of these events, more violence, more bloodshed, and more of Thailand's money into the Shinawatra coffers. In short no good whatsoever for anybody but their own family.


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Anyway, :offtopic: The point remains that Thaksin's son has never even have a proper job, so you tell me, how on earth can one expect him to lead a country forward, regardless of how much you love the guy.
You could substitute "Barrack Obama" in that sentence for "Thaksin's son" and look how well he is leading the U.S.A. :P :P :P :twisted:

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Would this have anything to do with the opening of a dog grooming salon in MV as described in another topic?
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I agree that any kind of heavy handed crackdown on the public is a disgrace....
And it lead directly to the government having to call an election which subsequently handed power back to the Shinawatra family. This goes back to my point that things won't change until someone starts another political party which is more acceptable to the rural population than the Democrats who have never polled an outright majority since they were formed in 1946!
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If you're talking symantecs neither have the TRT/PPP/PT parties because they ALL had to buy out other political parties, politicians, and most of their voters to get that majority figure.

Democracy as the west envisions it doesn't exist in Thailand and never has, power is a purchased commodity here. Those that think otherwise are simply misinformed or blinded by red propaganda.

I do agree with you though in that the Dems are totally inefficient and can't run the country successfully either (they've had enough tries). What the system is crying out for is new blood and, sorry, I really dont think the sniveling son of the current exiled megalomaniac is the answer to Thailand's problems.
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neither have the TRT/PPP/PT
Incorrect PT in power now have an overall majority without the other parties that were included by Yinglack in a coalition
She formed a coalition but did not need to
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Anyway, :offtopic: The point remains that Thaksin's son has never even have a proper job, so you tell me, how on earth can one expect him to lead a country forward, regardless of how much you love the guy. This is clearly not about the future of Thailand.....it's about power.
Lets insert Cameron and Osborne.......
This goes back to my point that things won't change until someone starts another political party
The Political party system is a shambles and does not work anywhere.......
Democracy as the west envisions it doesn't exist in Thailand and never has
It doesn't exist in the West either......
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buksida wrote:................................... What the system is crying out for is new blood and, sorry, I really dont think the sniveling son of the current exiled megalomaniac is the answer to Thailand's problems.
It was once quoted by a well respected Thai, I cannot recall his name, that what Thailand needs is a benolavent dictator, "but we would have to import one". :thumb:
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I actually can't understand the hostility / preferences demonstrated here between Red's, yellows and whatever. As far as I am concerned they are indistinguishable, in that they are all totally corrupt and act the same, primarily for their own benefit, once they are in power.

It was inevitable that the old status quo in Thailand would be challenged at some stage. Its just a shame that when the challenger came along, he was a chip off of the old block, 'emperors new clothes' and all that.

All that's to decide is which is the lesser of two evils and I guess that's largely geographic based on their power base? It seems to me that that the army and powers that be have come to some understanding to accommodate this to enable an amicable arrangement between past enemies?

If only the pesky critics could be kept quiet.
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According to my wife when watching the news last night the PT GOVT have allocated 200,000,000 Bt to Hua Hin for works to stop flooding

How much will actually result in works will obviously depend on how much the local DEM/PADIPAT govt creams of

I also notice that Buksi has not acknowledges my correction of his mistake although i did apologize when he pointed out my mistake funny innit
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It seems to me that that the army and powers that be have come to some understanding to accommodate this to enable an amicable arrangement between past enemies?
Allegedly, during a series of secret meetings in Brunei between representatives of the PT government, the military and influential others not to be mentioned, PT would be allowed to stay in government in return for not taking action against the 2006 coup leaders, no interference in military affairs and the enforcement of the laws protecting the monarchy.
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sargeant wrote: I also notice that Buksi has not acknowledges my correction of his mistake although i did apologize when he pointed out my mistake funny innit
Seeing as you have obsessively made this personal I have to reply, yes you are correct, PT won 265 seats. Happy now?

I hope you reds will be happy if Thaksin's son does take over and the country returns to violence on the streets because the other 235 are not happy about the Shinawatra's continual rape and pillage.

This is my last on this sad subject.
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