UHT Vana Nava Hua Hin City FC 2015

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I see the club have arranged a friendly vs Chumpon, being played tomorrow at the Smor Prong training ground with a 4pm kick off.

Not been much good news around this week but I'm pleased with this, another 90 mins game time for the players to bed in. Not too far from me so I'll be there.

I wonder if the coach will get time off from TOT to be there as well?! :laugh:
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Another day of silence from the club and another day of uncertainty regarding the alleged takeover by Hua Hin FC of premier league club TOT SC. Everything may work out fine in the end but at the moment the events are, in my opinion, having a detrimental impact on Hua Hin FC. At training today, again only two of the managers coaches were in attendance with a few other hangers on and a couple of medical staff. Other than being at the game on Sunday the manager has not been in attendance since a week ago Tuesday. Six coaches have not been in attendance since last Thursday.

Since the new manager arrived the team have normally practiced from Wednesday with a view to the weekends match. Specific planned plays and patterns of plays would be worked on in preparation for meeting their next opponents. Not today, a bit of training, a couple of six a side games and an eleven a side game with neither team being anything like what I would expect to take the field at the weekend. Tomorrow, with a friendly planned against Chumpon, will be another wasted day as far as specific preparation for Sunday is concerned. I just wonder if the "manager" will be turning up tomorrow.

Whatever is going on needs to be sorted quickly and everyone informed of what the plans are as quickly as possible. From what little information has been made public so far I can not see any positives for Hua Hin FC as a club however until we are fully informed of what is actually happening I will reserve my final judgement. I like I am sure many others have a multitude of questions running through my head. For now I will bite my tongue but I expect that when the club do finally make an official statement that these are all answered, if not, I will certainly be asking them at that point.

It may well be that in the fullness of time the way the club have handled this episode will make perfect sense but I doubt it. I can't see any reason for going partially public on a takeover, appointing "our" manager to also manage TOT SC, moving our coaches to help TOT SC when it appears from what the club is saying that the details of the finalised takeover deal have not been concluded. To my way of thinking everything should have been finalised before the club disclosed anything or any staff were moved and that first disclosure should have fully explained everything publically.

As I said at the start everything may work out fine in the end, but as things stand, if nothing more, it has been a horrendous PR disaster.
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If you had a Ferrari and a Ford Cortina, which would get most attention from you?

I too hope it all works out for us, but I'm not too confident at the moment. Our money guys wanted to be in the Premier League within 2 seasons - they've achieved it. I guess they've bought a better team, bigger ground and larger support.

As for the press release, they historically take place on a Thursday, so watch this space..................

Fingers crossed for some good news. However, don't forget, we won our league last season (with several players better than we have now) without the existing money. Hopefully current wage bills are funded to the end of the season. There is no reason we couldn't re-build to last season's standards again. After all, we're only 15 matches into this season and have experienced several regime changes already.

As for the players, if our worst fears are realised, many will have been brought to Hua Hin City with false promises - they must be wondering where their futures lay.

Apologies for the doom and gloom, but this is what such actions/lack of information do to people. Until we know better, we're bound to put 2 and 2 together and make 5.
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Big Boy wrote:If you had a Ferrari and a Ford Cortina, which would get most attention from you?
Neither, I have no passion for cars, they are simply a mode of transport that get you from A to B.
Big Boy wrote: I guess they've bought a better team, bigger ground and larger support.
I don't think so. Better team, that are rooted to the bottom of the premier league and in all probability are favourites to be relegated. Bigger ground, currently just in terms of capacity but still only 5000. Larger support, no way. TOT have been gypsies over the past 6 years relocating many times in an effort to increase their fan base. They are very poorly supported.
Big Boy wrote:don't forget, we won our league last season (with several players better than we have now)
I have only been watching Hua Hin this season so I am unable to make an objective judgement on this statement. I am however intrigued to know who these players were and which of our regular starters you think they are better than so I can get an idea of their calibre. Could I have names please so I can look them up, I am interested to see where they are now.
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Geordie Dancer wrote:I am however intrigued to know who these players were and which of our regular starters you think they are better than so I can get an idea of their calibre. Could I have names please so I can look them up, I am interested to see where they are now.
OK, here's a few:

Theerawat - wasted much of last season at right back, but an out and out midfielder, who could outstrip many of this season's midfielders.

Sutin - another midfielder who knew what he was doing. IMHO the best midfield option we had, and one of the first I looked for on the team sheet.

Owusu - OK, banned for 12 months, but he was an aggressive midfielder who could turn a game (or incite a riot).

Lampty - Solid at the back. The only defender we have in the same class is Pu. Oh so very, very strong.

Stephens - I never noticed him until Lampty had work permit problems for a while. By far the best reader of the game I've seen in the 3rd tier of Thai football. Absolutely brilliant. Left Back or centre-half - we don't have anybody better.

Well, that's a few, and I understand why 3 of those had to go. but losing the likes of Sutin was a huge mistake.

Of course, the above is my personal opinion, and i expect others to have different opinions. The fact is, the above players were champions, so there isn't any real argument regarding their ability. The current team could struggle to achieve the same if the backroom disarray doesn't sort itself quickly.
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Changing the subject, I updated the club's Wikepedia page with the players a couple of days ago (wouldn't have bothered if I'd realised there was coding involved). Anyway, I think it looks quite good. Can somebody have a look please, and advise any errors.
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Big Boy wrote:Lampty - Solid at the back. The only defender we have in the same class is Pu. Oh so very, very strong.
Tbh, in my opinion, he's the only one that would come close to a place in the team with the squad we have now. He was indeed very solid at the back. The way the foreigner rule is though, I'd play Pu + Da together every week if fit. Is Lampty better than the foreign centre half we have now in Valery? I'm honestly not sure, possibly still too early to tell.

I think if you look at the individuals we have in the squad now, they are an improvement on last season's individuals, indeed most with experience of playing at a higher level.

The biggest problem for us this season has been all the changes and uncertainty, we done all pre-season and actually started the season without a coach what with all the will he won't he with regards Nobby. We let that drag on way too long, to the detriment of the team. Even the superstars of the first half of the season didn't arrive until the season was underway.

Now we are suffering the same teething problems at the start of the 2nd half because of all the changes. I hope, and would like to think it will happen, that when these guys settle in and the team starts 'sailing as one' to coin a phrase. We will be a better team than last season.

I just hope we make sure of a champions league spot and by that time all going well, the team will have settled and have a real good chance of succeeding where last season's team failed.

Not even going to go into off the field events, suffice to say I'm not liking what I'm seeing/hearing thus far.
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Yes, I said that we'd all have differing opinions. IMHO our best man by far was Stephens - in Thai football I've never seen anybody read the game better. Our midfield still have to prove themselves for me, and I'd prefer Theerawat and definitely Sutin - better the devils you know (and proved at this level).
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Big Boy wrote:Yes, I said that we'd all have differing opinions. IMHO our best man by far was Stephens - in Thai football I've never seen anybody read the game better. Our midfield still have to prove themselves for me, and I'd prefer Theerawat and definitely Sutin - better the devils you know (and proved at this level).
Don't get me wrong, not saying Stephens was a bad player but far too much of a liability to be considered a good player. Would be interesting to see the percentage of the cheap goals we gave away last season(of which there were a lot) were a result of a poor decision, misplaced pass or mistake by him. I reckon it would be a v high percentage.

With regards the midfield, I'll agree there are a number of players that need more time to prove themselves to be better. The ones that already have thus far, I would say Lucas, Byrne, No.2. On top of that, the little I've seen of No.34 I'm convinced he'll be a better player. Jonata probably still in the unproven as yet bracket but I'm also confident he'll turn out to be a better player. Choi, clearly still not up to speed so unfair to judge yet, however if he can recapture half the form of the player he was 2 years ago by all accounts, he will be a star man.

Like you say, we will all have different opinions, the forum would be a much duller place were we just to agree all the time! :cheers:

I'll give you 1 thing, you've been consistent in your praise of Stephens. You've clearly been a fan of his for a long time.
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Sabai Sabai wrote:I'll give you 1 thing, you've been consistent in your praise of Stephens. You've clearly been a fan of his for a long time.
Yes, he couldn't do a thing wrong in my eyes, and rarely did.
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Having seen as much (or as little) of the the team as the manager and the majority of coaching staff over the last couple of days it looks from the video clip of training yesterday that todays starting line up will be stronger and more balanced than last weeks. After yesterdays results,todays game is a must win to get into 2nd place in the league. We cannot afford another abysmal performance or result like last week. Attack! Attack! Attack! We need a big win. Howay Hua Hin!
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UHT Vana Nava Hua Hin City 4 - 0 Nonthaburi

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Back where we should be:
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I will try make it short
1 halff was like a walk in the park and should have been 5-0
2 half was some off the most borring football I have seen there in a verey long time exept the 5-10 last min. I don't know if it's equel points when the last game have been played,its about goal difference or head to head It must e the last as it didn't
loos like the team care about make big win inthe 2 half,and I'm not happy with that.
Seemok still have Nonthaburi home I think so if its the go difference we could need a couple of goal that we could eassiy have make today.
Well 3 point is 3 point and if we continue to win we will at least end second :D

come on Hua Hin, we cheer Hua Hin

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