Thailand Immigration: TM30 24 hour reporting thread

[Big Boy]

Yes, it looks a possibility (I'd missed that link )

Mind you, I honestly think Mrs BB would not be happy with it, and tell me to drive her to Immigration. Just the initial registration would be too much for her.

I was right. Mrs BB says we'll drive to Immigration. Registration looked pretty straight forward, but there's a Thai Soap on the TV (isn't there always )

[lomuamart]

Ah, BB, you're talking about the 24 hour thing. Sorry, I'm a bit dazed and confused this morning. But there are two extra reporting things, you know? Out of the country and out of the province. They both seemingly require reporting. Basically, your movements.

If we moved house then I can see a reason to report that. Imm always use the apology that they need to keep tabs on us foreigners in case something bad happens to us. For that reason (and bad guys out), I can understand. I might not like it but it does make some sense.

And as an aside, I went to the USSR on a school trip back in the mid 70s. They kept track of all of us back then. OK, the masters did the donkey work but we had to stay in specific hotels, travel by night on specific trains, shop in specific stores etc etc. And that was only the half of it.

There are plenty of countries around the world that still insist on this type of control and unfortunately Thailand seems to be regressing to that sort of system. I don't speak Thai well but I believe that the Thai word for the country translates into something along the lines of "Land of the Free".

Well, shiver me timbers. They could have fooled me.

[Big Boy]

And the more people, who believe BB's scaremongering....No TM30 = No extension and show up at the local immigration to report their whereabouts to earn the 'immigration gold star', the bigger the risk, that HH will eventually start to enforce the law.

Observance and adherence to the law of the land. Read the forum more carefully, examples are there.

Yes, I accept the chances of being caught are remote, and I also agree the law is stupid. The bit I don't understand is the ridicule some people try to impose when people try to do things right.

Yes, of course my passport goes everywhere with me. It's never caused me a problem, and can often save hassle in many walks of Thai life. My choice.

Please don't lose any more sleep over my choice to remain legal in Thailand.

[T.O.M.]

BB wrote:
"Observance and adherence to the law of the land. Read the forum more carefully, examples are there."

Provide me ONE example of anyone, who has been denied extension @ HH because of the lack of TM30....You keep saying it has happened...then please provide a link. If you are able to do that, I will offer my sincere apologies to you.
Until that happens, I will consider your posts on the subject as at least borderline scaremongering...

I don't lose any sleep over your choices...just love a good discussion...

[Big Boy]

There is a search facility, I'm too busy completing my TM30s to look for you. I'm not looking for an apology.

[pitsch]

http://reform-thai-immigration.com/ there is a petition about this TM30. I doubt that it will change anything, but it might be good to be signed by many people.

[Chazz14]

I recall that a couple of years ago Thai Immi. announced that foreigners should carry their passports with them at all times...

A couple of weeks later a u-turn occurred with Thai Immi. then saying something along the lines of:
"of course we don't expect foreigners to carry their original passport with them at all times - as much too inconvenient if if was mislaid - a copy will suffice."

I have not read anything more, so assume this still stands...

[Dannie Boy]

I posted this a couple of weeks back, but when I went to the Tha Yang Immigration office for my re-entry stamp I asked whether I needed to report within 24 hours after my return and was told there’s no need - it must be just if you go from one province to another - if you leave the country and providing you return to your registered address then effectively Immigration at BKK check you back in.


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[buksida]

A couple of minutes effort after a trip away isn't going to hurt anybody. There is even an online version for those who want their lives to be even easier. If you live n Hua Hin, I honestly don't understand the objection, but each to his own.

Not exactly a couple of minutes if you live 200 km away from the immigration office. So if I want to have a night in Chumphon, an hour's drive away, I have to drive back to Hua Hin, two hours away, when I get back to tell them where I've been and that I am now back in my own house? Absolute insanity. Its actually cheaper to pay the fine than spend the money on fuel and waste an entire day travelling.

I'm with the 'if they're not asking for it, don't supply it' crowd - feeding them will only make them hungrier.

[Big Boy]

I honestly sympathise with you guys. However, I've been studying the form earlier today, and it states the local Police Officer. Immigration Division if located in Bangkok.

OK, for those of us living in Hua Hin, it makes sense to use Immigration. For the rest, it makes sense to use the local police - it might bring it home to them what a stupid law it is.

[Nereus]

I very much doubt that trying to report to the local police will fly. More so in those places that have an Immigration office anywhere near. And it has been reported elsewhere that somebody that attempted it in a Northern province had the report thrown in the bin in front of them at a small local police station!

What about this then:
Our late member Bristolian(RIP),worked in Bangkok and lived in Hua Hin. Every Monday he drove to Bangkok for work, and every weekend he stayed in Hua Hin. I would not be surprised if there are other similar "aliens". So according to this BS he broke the law every week!

I myself am in a similar position, although I no longer work. If I am in Bangkok it will take up most of one day, plus expressway tolls, if I attempt to go to the Immigration office in Chaeng Wattana. In Hua Hin it probably does not matter, because I stay in a Hotel.

I have looked at that online reporting site and all I can see is Thai script. Despite what some people suggest, not everybody has a Thai speaker OR reader in his house.

The site that Buksida posted, and already mentioned again in another post, may be better advertised if it was to have its own thread, or added as a sticky?

I posted this a couple of weeks back, but when I went to the Tha Yang Immigration office for my re-entry stamp I asked whether I needed to report within 24 hours after my return and was told there’s no need - it must be just if you go from one province to another - if you leave the country and providing you return to your registered address then effectively Immigration at BKK check you back in.

This may well be correct, but it is NOT clear on the circus poster, nor it appears, what is being interpreted by SOME Immigration officers.

[Big Boy]

A friend of mine has reported to the local police station in Kalasin several times in the last 12 months. They didn't like it, but they did whatever they needed to do, eventually. A senior officer had to be called, but it was definitely sorted each time. I have no reason to doubt what he says, in fact his account of what happens is a conversation piece at parties.

I think the nearest Immigration Office was Roi Et.

[T.O.M.]

A friend of mine has reported to the local police station in Kalasin several times in the last 12 months. They didn't like it, but they did whatever they needed to do, eventually. A senior officer had to be called, but it was definitely sorted each time. I have no reason to doubt what he says, in fact his account of what happens is a conversation piece at parties.

I think the nearest Immigration Office was Roi Et.

You can inform your friend...that Kalasin have their own immigration office...
Located within the Kalasin Municipal Office.

[Big Boy]

Isn't the Kalasin Office newly opened?

[Edit] If not, brilliant - it proves the point that it can be done at a police station, even if there is an Immigration Office nearby.

[buksida]

You really think the police in these little provincial towns that have no English and can barely be bothered to do actual police work are going to be arsed with this? Dream on!