Drugged in the Hilton

[bj.blackowitz]

for all you better knowers:

my friend and I had 4 !!! bers all night
he woke up at 2 PM afternoon in a sleezy room somewher in selakam area, he did not know where he was.

Why did it not work on me ?? 1 I took my beer, they might have tried to slip some in mine also

some drugs dont make you go "drunk" but makes you loose memory on what happenend
2.
i KNOW he went with them, I was amazed as he said, No way I will go with them 5 minutes before, I Saw him leaving with them

retrebution
They work the thai Way: so di I
an eye for a eye
both BiB and Hilton told me , they could not undertake leagal action as there was no hard evience ( witnisses of them stealing him and or drugging him. but everyone who has a clear mind KNOWS they did it. and sorry, I knew did did not get anyway with it this time...( no further details)

those kinda thiefs ruin the place ( not only hilton, but HuaHin and Thailand in general)

pickpockets: ok can happend,
but being drugged and then robbed: markm for life...


I dont care they have to support their waterbuffalao
I have enough Part time friends from the bars in HH , BKK and PTY,

NEVER ever a problem..

I stay away fro FL i do not know, and hope this never happends to others.

take care... its a jungle out there..

[redzonerocker]

for all you better knowers

i'm not suggesting your friend didn't get drugged & scammed.
what i am stating is, there is a timeline between when the drug is administered until it affects you, firstly disorientated like you are seriously drunk (within 30 mins) & then pretty much comatose at its peak (2 up to 8 hours).

amnesia for the victim is the reason this type of downer is used, & which is why it's used so commonly in rapes & robberies.
does your friend remember anything clearly from the night? has he a last clear thought of his last movements?
as you mention no timelines between your last drink at the hilton until you seperated with your friend, its hard to judge.
if, when you left your friend, he seemed in a good state of mind & thinking clearly, it is more likely that the drug was induced after you parted company. maybe another beer somewhere or maybe in coffee??

whatever, it's a sneaky trick & a nasty but ever increasing crime.

[Randy Cornhole]

Whatever happens just prey you don't wake up with a 1000 bht note in you hand and a sticky bum...

[redzonerocker]

Whatever happens just prey you don't wake up with a 1000 bht note in you hand and a sticky bum...

or worse still, a sticky bum & no 1000 baht note

[Randy Cornhole]

Or a 1000 bht note up your bum and a sticky hand...

[chelsea]

Just out of interest, has anyone asked to see footage from the Security Camera's that are placed all around that place. If something untoward did happen that night surely it will show up on there.

[Hobiecat]

Redzonrocker - I have read rohypnol takes effect very quickly - sometimes as quick as 10 minutes after being taken, but it only reaches its peak eight hours later when it can render a person totally unconscious. There would be enough time to allow a victim to stagger down the stairs at the Hilton in an apparent drunk state, but by the time they got home the effect would be much more debilitating. It's about ten times stronger than Valium.

I was in Nana Plaza some years ago and sat in a bar for sometime with a couple of ladies. After deciding to depart with one lady in paticular she got quite anxious to get going back to my room. I was happy just sitting for for a little while longer seeing the sights before we left the bar. After about 20 min. I knew somehing was dreadfully wrong with me and realized I had been drugged. I had just returned from the bathroom sometime before. I fortunately did not have to much to drink and in my increasingly withering state I thought my best bet was to make a break for my hotel room. I was staying at the Dynasty which is right next door. I bolted from the bar and with my vision increasingly narrowing and my ability to stay up right becoming more taxing by the second. I made it up two floors to my room. I slammed the door locking it behind me and collapesd crawling to my bed where I immediately passed out. I'm not sure but I believe I was out for an hour to an hour and a half after which time I shook it off and went on the hunt for the b*%th that tried to rob me. The drug rohypnol reaches it's peak almost immediately. Take it from some one who survived the experince with his wallet intaked.

Once you have been violated in this way you will understand it is not a knee jerk reaction as as Margaretcarnes has suggested to act out. It is humanly whole hearted REVENGE! They'll do it again unless there learn a painfull lesson.

[Hobiecat]

Reading the spelling of my last post I wondering if the drug still has a hold on me three years later.

[Randy Cornhole]

Sorry off topic...
Hobiecat you avatar makes me laugh everytime I see it. Many thanks...

[Hobiecat]

Tosha!................I broke my teeth on Zappa when I was a kid.........................Dinimo Humm?.............Joe's Garage?

[MURF]

[quote="Randy Cornhole"]Some tips for a happy night out...

1. Never leave an unfinished drink on the bar, either take it to the toilet with you or finish it and sponge a new one when you get back.

I had 3 friends drugged recently,2 were in the same bar(nothing to do wiht the bar or owner)and 1 in last chance saloon sing a song.They called me the next day feeling shite one, woke up in a pier room but the other 2 from the same bar had the same story-they remember been in the bar and next they woke up in their houses. It looked as if a girl spiked them and then her taxi driver boyfriend took them home an robbed their houses,money, dvd player camera etc.

In westren countrys it is mainly women who suffer from this evil crime,here in asia it is mainly men a who suffer(women also).
As for the establishment been talked about here this has happend since it opened.In the beginning Koreans and japanese were targeted because they never complained (losing face !)and most of them were staying upstairs.I do not understand why this place like most places in Bkk. do not take and copy id cards.
As this happens in most countrys mine included use Randyboys 1st rule if this does not work try his 5TH

[Wiseman]

I can't understand why bj doesn't see any fault by himself or his friend during this alleged plot to drug and rob them!

Whether it was a robbery or not is not the question here.

Firstly, it is well known that many girls frequenting The Hilton are freelance prostitutes. It is also well known that the majority of prostitutes are prone to commit criminal activities anywhere in the world.

Therefore any reasonable person would surely see the situation as a somewhat risky one in the first place!

It is also a known fact that people who are paid to commit violence against others are criminals and are likely to be arrested at some time.

It is also a known fact that these type of people often squeal on their paymaster in return for a lighter sentence.

I do not wish you any more bad luck bj, but be sensible and move on! The Bangkok Hilton is a much worse place than the Hua Hin one!

[redzonerocker]

I can't understand why bj doesn't see any fault by himself or his friend during this alleged plot to drug and rob them!

Whether it was a robbery or not is not the question here.

Firstly, it is well known that many girls frequenting The Hilton are freelance prostitutes. It is also well known that the majority of prostitutes are prone to commit criminal activities anywhere in the world.

Therefore any reasonable person would surely see the situation as a somewhat risky one in the first place!

so the fault of hobiecat, bj & his friend was . . . . .. . . wanting to party & have a good time!!!!
i'm sure they are reasonable 'persons' & didn't deserve to be victims of what is a low down, cowardly crime, whichever way you look at it!!

this type of crime isn't just confined to certain nightclubs or bars, it's carried out by opportunist criminals, so anywhere can be a 'risk area'.

[Hobiecat]

I do not wish you any more bad luck bj, but be sensible and move on! The Bangkok Hilton is a much worse place than the Hua Hin one!

I'm curious Mr. Wiseman. Would you ignore this if it happend to you in your native country? I highly doubt it. If this were to happen to you anywhere, I'm sure you would have the same helpless feeling we experinced and would do your utmost to rectifiy this problem that is starting here in HH so it doesn't happen to anyone else regardless what establishment there in. Wouldn't you? This can happen to YOU just sitting in a restaurant/bar having dinner.

[ksuttner]

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